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To: "Bob Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re:TD transmission problems.
From: Andrew Moyce <amoyce@pol.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:55:15 -0400 (EDT)
Jack Stehr tells me know everything there is to know about MG 
transmissions, so I'm appealing to you for help.  Here's what I posted 
on the MG enthusiasts Web page:


I did some revision on the remote gear shift housing, and now I'm 
having problems shifting gears.

  The whole story (or to paraphrase Walt Kelly, we have met the DPO 
and he is us.) A couple of years ago, when I removed the engine for a 
rebuild I had problems
  separating the remote housing from the gearbox. I didn't realize at 
the time that I had the later model, which has a "bearing" in the back 
of the housing for the third and
  fourth gear shaft. After some work with a crow bar I finally got the 
housing separated from the transmission, and probably bent the shaft. 
When it came time for
  re-assembly, I got the whole thing together, took a test drive and 
found I couldn't get into either third or fourth gear. I did some 
modification of the bearing, which is
  actually just a cup the bolts onto the back of the remote housing, 
and got it to work. It served me well for about 10,000 miles with what 
I considered to be a
  reasonable amount of resistance between gears.
  Recently, I decided to attack the problem of leaking transmission 
fluid. I traced the problem to this repair, and to the fact that I had 
not put a gasket between the
  remote housing and the gearbox. The two ears had broken off of the 
cup bearing, and I managed to fix it with a piece of quarter inch 
steel between the bearing and the
  gearbox, some epoxy and make-a-gasket goo. I drilled out the cup to 
give the shaft extra clearance, and fabricated a cork gasket to go 
between the remote housing
  and gearbox.

  Now that it is all back together, the problem is in down shifting. 
It shifts easily from first to second, and reasonably easy into third 
and then to fourth. I have to search for
  the proper "gate" into third. Trying to shift from fourth to second 
is impossible, nor will it go back into first after I stop. It usually 
won't go back into third then, either and
  after a number of L and H shaped maneuvers I'm finally able to get 
back into second and first. I've already broken the wooden shift knob, 
and my hand is pretty sore. If
  the lever to the remote shift isn't properly seated, I shouldn't be 
able to go through the gears at all. If the third and fourth gear 
shaft is binding I shouldn't be able to get
  into either of those gears. Something happens when the lever engages 
third gear that won't let it go back into the slot in the first and 
second gear shaft. I'm not anxious
  to take the cowl off again, but the car isn't driveable in this 
condition. Any and all advice is welcome.

  Andy Moyce
  52 TD 


-George Butz replied that it looks like the 3rd/4th shaft is binding 
in the cup bearing, keeping it from aligning with the other shafts.  
This prevents the lever from the remote from moving laterally to 
engage either of the other shafts.  This seems logical to me.  If I 
did the bend the 3rd/4th shaft, I don't see any way to work on it 
without dismantling the whole transmission.  I think I need to work at 
further modifying the cup bearing on the back of the housing.  Does 
this makes sense to you?

Thank you for your help.

Andy

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