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Re: [mg-tabc] Re: TB lights

To: Ray McCrary <spook01@home.com>
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Re: TB lights
From: KEN PORTER <kporter@unix.asb.com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:23:29 -0400
Ray:
For safety there is really no choice here. Go for the TC wiring plus 50 watt
halogen headlights. If the reflectors are not in good condition a re-silvering
will make a world of difference.
Ken TC 4147

Ray McCrary wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> OK!
> Careful perusal of my original wiring diagram of the TB shows that the
> lights have a single filament bulb in each headlight.  They are both focused
> straight down the road.  When the dipper switch is selected to high beams,
> both light are blazing (well, OK, maybe a damp candle...)away; when dipped,
> the bulb nearest oncoming traffic goes out(!) leaving the one bulb shining
> (glimmering?) down the part of the road nearest the ditch.  Of course, there
> is no US version.
> The TA wiring diagram shows the solenoid type lamp nearest oncoming traffic,
> and the diagram for the TC (No. TC 3414 onwards) shows a dual filament lamp
> nearest the oncoming traffic, single filament on ditch side.
> The US version of the TC has two of the twin filament lights.
> Now, the question is: Should I go original, or go with the TC type wiring
> for safety?  The two harnesses are different in several ways, but I suspect
> that they could be interchanged with little trouble.  My harness is in,
> shall we say, a rather used condition, and also has been modded to allow the
> later sealed beam light conversion.   I am leaning toward driveability with
> the US TC type wiring harness installed, but the TA type would work as well.
> Comments??
> Best Regards,
> Ray McCrary
> "Speed is Life;
> of course Luck and Altitude
> are helpful, too."
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TATERRY@aol.com>
> To: <spook01@home.com>; <mg-t@autox.team.net>; <mg-tabc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:05 AM
> Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: TB lights
>
> > In a message dated 5/11/00 9:37:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> spook01@home.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << Does anyone know if the headlights on the TC are the same unit as the
> TB??
> > >>
> >
> > Ray, this is probably more than you wanted but for some time now, I've
> been
> > pursueing the question for all MG's that had free standing
> > headlights....corrections to the below welcome.  Terry
> >
> > Ok, folks, one of the persistant questions is:  What headlamp is correct
> for
> > my car.  Lets make a FAQ.  I know some of them, help me fill in the
> blanks:
> >
> > M------Rotax K701-7inch or Lucas R47A/B( per Blower) or was it Rotax
> KL590/7
> >          (Kiwi eyewitness)
> > C
> > D------Rotax K624 or K624/2-8inch=D,F,J and Early L.
> >          or   Lucas L140-8 inch [Flat lens]
> > J **                    "
> > F                      "
> > L  early              "
> > L  late               L150 9 inch U flute lens
> > K---------Lucas L140-8 inch ?
> > KD                "
> > KN                   "
> > NA----L.B.D. 150 'U' flute lens-9 inch
> > NB----        "
> > PA----L.B.D. 140 Lucas  'U' Flute lens-8 inch
> > PB----        "
> > TA-----            "
> >
> > SA-----L.B.D. 166S, "U" lenses is 9" diameter, overall dia= 10"
> > VA-----L.B.D. 150S
> > WA
> >
> > TC-----LBD 140 'U' flute 8 inch lens TC to '47, and TB.
> > LBD or MBD140-8 inch Catseye=TC *
> > Lucas S700 7 inch TC {exu} and TD
> >
> >  *TCs Forever is the scource for the  change in lens from the 'U' to the
> > Catseye at car TC/1850 the Catseye had the small vertical Lucas in the
> > midddle of the lens and post production replacement lenses had a larger
> > Lucas in a central Dot.}
> >
> > **J type Q&A:
> > 1. Where the Lucas L140 lamps plated or painted or both?
> > **Bucket was painted body color, Rim chrome plated.  The side lamp was the
> > same.
> >
> > 2. Were Lucas lamps used along with the Rotax lamps all through the J
> > production run? If not when did it start?
> > **Early cars had Rotax, changed to Lucas for later cars but the parts list
> > doesn't give a date for the change over! [ frustrating? ]
> >
> > 3. Did the J ever use the dipping reflector set-up? Wiring diagrams never
> > show it.
> > **The near side lamp had a 'dipper',  the off side did not, that lamp went
> > 'out' for low beam activated by an interlock that was part of the 'dipper'
> > mechanism.  The actual arrangement can be seen on wiring diagrams for the
> TA.
> >
> > 4. DID the Lucas lamp use a flat lens or was it fluted?
> > **Flat, sandblasted on one side.[for want of a better discription]
> >
> > 5. With all the Rotax equipment that was specified, why the Lucas 1130
> wing
> > lamps? Didn't Rotax have an equivalent for this?
> > **Both companies supplied Torpedo sidelamps which were painted body color,
> > later cars were fitted with the Lucas 1130 lamps, don't know when the
> > change was made. [ After Rotax went defunct! when? ]
> >
> > 6. What is the current thinking on the wing lamps..painted or plated or
> > mixed.
> > **See above, always painted body color, these can be converted easily for
> > turn flashers & side lamp operation by fitting new bulb holders.
> >
> > 7. What is the Lucas type number for the Brown Divers helmet dash lamps on
> > the N and P type dash?
> > It is a D43
> >
> > Lucas lamps and parts sources:
> >
> > Terry Winters (0121-777-3386 )-----He does 6.5 and 7.5 "U" lenses.
> > Holden's on 01885-488-000. Holdens do some lenses including P100s.
> > DCM & Co Lamps  :  0114-272-2435 / 275-0479 / 0850-704-616
> > Finesse         :  01305-854-286, 0973-886-937.
> finesse@fine-art.demon.co.uk
> > Duke Brothers   :  01777-705-130    Fax 01777-705-130, Retford,
> > Nottinghamshiire
> >
> > Tnx to Scotty in Oz and David in UK for help on the above....
> >
> >
> >
> >


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