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Re: PA front suspension issues

To: "Robert Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>, <DSBonar@aol.com>, <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: PA front suspension issues
From: "tom metcalf" <mgtom@bright.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:01:30 -0400
References: <MABBKBANMFLCOFIAGJNOGEMDCNAA.cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Reply-to: "tom metcalf" <mgtom@bright.net>
Sender: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net
Don & Bob,

While I haven't seen these get stripped before - you're right, Bob, it could
happen. All is the same as TC and I nearly ALWAYS replace the front cross
tube with new as it's a very important part of the front geometry -
relatively inexpensive, and, when new, provides a nice tight fit at the ends
and is straight and true.  tommm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
To: "tom metcalf" <mgtom@bright.net>; <DSBonar@aol.com>;
<mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: PA front suspension issues


> Don and Tom,
> I'll bet the cross tube threads are stripped for the first 3/4' or so and
> the pin threads will not reach good threads. Remove the cross tube and
check
> the tapped threads in the ends.
> Everything else seems OK, including pin length. Mind you, I am basing this
> on a TC but believe the front spring eyes are the same as MMM.
> Regards, Bob Grunau
> Don,
>
> I don't have the parts in front of me but yours all sound reasonable size.
> You do have the spring eye fully tucked up into the front knuckle, right?
> The knuckle isn't over 3" wide - actually visualizing it, it seems like it
> would be about 2 to 2 1/2" wide so your 3+" pin should protrude well into
> the front cross tube. Am I missing something?? MAYBE the spring eye is a
bit
> wide to offer up into the knuckle and it needs ground down a fuzz?
>
> One more thing...   the correct tab washers for MMM cars had the tabs at
90
> degrees while the T-series (hence Moss Motors) are at 180 degrees. These
tab
> washers come from Dowley.
>
> tommm
>
>
> > In starting to bolt up the front suspension, I find the Road spring
front
> > mounting pin seems too short.
> >
> > The pin is 3.14" from the base of the nut to the cone shaped end. Moss
> > pictures indicate there should also be a front pin tab washer between
the
> eye
> > in the front road spring and the dumb iron. The pin passes through the
> spring
> > eye, the dumb iron and threads into the front chassis cross tube. There
> does
> > not seem to be a washer indicated between the outside of the spring eye
> and
> > the head of the fixing pin. Should there be?
> >
> > Even without the tab washer, the pin is too short to reach the threads.
> >
> > Springs seem to be correct for P types (although I wouldn't bet on it)
and
> > measure 1.39" wide. Length and location of front shock absorber mounting
> pin
> > and trunion box to frame mounting seems OK during dry fit.
> >
> > What am I missing? Incorrect pin? Incorrect spring?
> >
> > Does anyone have a pin they could measure or ... tell me what I'm doing
> > incorrectly?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Don Bonar PA 1823
>
>
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