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Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Injector testing

To: Steve Christophersen <sotacd@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Injector testing
From: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:24:29 -0700
Steve, I am not seeking a company to do testing for  me. There are a lot 
of those. I am looking for the "perfect" fluid to use as a simulant for 
gasoline to use in testing here at my shop.  I have a hardware in the 
loop simulator which can operate my cars electronics and I want to use 
that to drive the injectors. That way I can see, using the on car 
hardware, how my injectors are flowing. This will give me that data and 
will also show up any faulty harness issues or EMS injector driver 
issues.   I am seeking a fluid that mimics gasoline but is not 
flammable, if such exists.  I did look at ASNU but could not determine 
what it is they use for the working fluid or for cleaning the 
injectors.  Did you happen to see anytnig like that on that site?

mayf


Steve Christophersen wrote:

> Try this site:
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> http://www.asnu.com/
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> Steve
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> From: "drmayf" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:57 AM
> To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever@comcast.net>
> Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fuel Injector testing
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>> Well, this wasn't meant tobe  a thesis paper or major effort to 
>> understand injectors. I simply want the closest in physical 
>> properties, to gasoline, non flamable fluid I can find. Why? So I 
>> don't have to go into a major research effort. I am no chemist, but 
>> the minimal data I looked at seems to indicate that long chain 
>> molecules are thicker than short chain ones. That would indicate that 
>> molecular weight is higher?  Also, it appeared that density for long 
>> chains was higher than short chains for organic molecules.   I simply 
>> want that fluid so I do not have to do a lot of research.  I really 
>> do not give a hoot about having a  wealth of knowledge about some 
>> fluid other than it will work.  Stoddard solvent is on  my list of 
>> those to check out.  To me, the most important items are "will it 
>> flow similarly to gasoline and not blow up in my face if ignited".  
>> These two fluids are used as gasoline simulants so they are on my 
>> list to check: viscor 16a and 16b.
>> So you are probably wondering why I want to do this. Well, every 
>> injector is off a tad from its brothers.  If I can get egt 
>> measurements from each cylinder at full bogie, then I know that the 
>> cylinder mixture is leaner or richer depending on temperature (rule 
>> of thumb). If it was hotter by a few percent then I might select an 
>> injector that flows a tad more and put it in that position. So I need 
>> to understand the injector flow at full boost and full rpm. And I 
>> need to use the hardware that is on the car because that affects it 
>> all as well. And so on. Seems to me that would be optimimun. 
>> Individual AFR sensors would work also, but  that seems a bit 
>> expensive. Anyway, that's why I am considering this. My speed secret 
>> (soleful sigh..tongue in cheek) is out.....
>>
>> mayf
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