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Re: [Land-speed] Torque Drop>From>JG Magoo

To: "Mike Lackey" <mike_lackey@yahoo.com>, "land-speed-digest"
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Torque Drop>From>JG Magoo
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:36:18 -0400
I have had engines that needed less as RPM went up so I would be careful 
about making a blanket statement. All of those engines have small bores and 
very well designed combustion chambers and ports so the mixture was very 
well prepared and quite ready to light as well. Fuel atomization has a lot 
to do with it also. Some of the very old Cosworth stuff used numbers like 60 
degrees of lead but were large bore and lazy chambers by today's standards. 
It is not unusual to only run 28 degrees of lead at 9000 RPM with a well 
designed engine. This is also a sign that the chamber is pretty resistant to 
detonation. Be wary of something that does not respond to a timing change 
you have a bomb on your hands then as the cycle by cycle combustion is all 
over the place or the manifold is so bad that you made some cylinders better 
and some worse and a burned piston is in your future.. Nitro and atomization 
are two words that really belong in the same sentence...LOL

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat@pahrump.com>
To: "Mike Lackey" <mike_lackey@yahoo.com>; "land-speed-digest" 
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Torque Drop>From>JG Magoo


> Mike:
> I think if you look at it a little closer, piston speed is a function
> of RPM and the slow burning "flame front" of Nitro starts to get
> behind the piston speed as RPM increases so we must add ignition
> advance to keep the piston and the flame front in a more or less
> ideal positional relationship. So it is both the slow burn rate and
> the desire for higher RPM/power that drives the higher advance. Would
> still like to know how much advance the F-1 engines use at 20k.
> Skip
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