Maybe thats why a lot of skiers run into trees and ski off cliffs.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
From: "W S Potter" <wester6935@attbi.com>
To: <wmtsmith@landracing.com>; "gary baker" <lsr350@hotmail.com>;
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Motorcycle streamliners handling woes
> This almost sounds like the way you turn in skiing ... lean to the uphill
> ski in order to turn downhill in the opposite direction. Transferring the
> weight from the downhill ski to the uphill ski requires an up motion that
> results in the weight transfer being a much smoother motion of the skis
and
> your lower body. The side cut on the ski is what actually turns you as
that
> ski is weighted. As you traverse across the face of the hill you lean
> downhill to increase stability. All the time your knees are pushing
toward
> the hill and your head is away from the hill.
>
> The usual motion in motorcycle riding is to have the riders head to the
> inside of the turn. Apparently the streamlined bike rider has to unlearn
> that motion and learn to let the radius of the front tire act as the
sidecut
> on the ski does.
>
> For quicker turns in skiing you get a shorter, stiffer ski with a greater
> sidecut. For longer radius turns you lengthen the ski and diminish the
> sidecut. Sounds like what happens with smaller or larger tires on the
front
> of a bike or car to change the turning characteristics.
>
> Just musing ...
>
> Wes
>
> .
> on 9/21/02 3:51 PM, wmtsmith@landracing.com at wmtsmith@landracing.com
> wrote:
>
> > Gary, How would a big bob weight attached to the steering mech. ( like
Cary
> > with the Unacycle) affect a MC 'Liner)-- an uninformed car mind would
like to
> > know. wmts
> >>
> >> From: ardunbill@webtv.net
> >> Date: 2002/09/21 Sat AM 09:34:26 EDT
> >> To: lsr350@hotmail.com (gary baker), land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Motorcycle streamliners handling woes
> >>
> >> Gary, one problem I see, and I don't know the answer, is that if you
> >> steer the mc streamliner right to turn right, it wants to lean to the
> >> left, and maybe fall over to the left. So how do you steer and correct
> >> these motions to get it to go the direction you want? I agree that the
> >> rider on top of it would be better able to control it. But in "Flat
> >> Out" Noel Pope was on top in '49 of the JAP/Brough streamliner, and
> >> reports it wanted to go one way, and he pushed the other with all his
> >> strength against the body, "like a brick wall" and it still fell over
at
> >> about 150 or something. However, he says the bodywork had been damaged
> >> in transit from England to Bonneville, and the structure was maybe
> >> warped by forcing the pieces together.
> >>
> >> The mc streamliner is really a deep subject. Bill
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