Please, you guys need to realize that GSXR's
and Ninja's readily make 300-400 hp on the street, with stock
cylinder blocks, cranks rods, valves, etc, with turbo's,
many make right around 250-300 hp with bone stock
motors on pump gas
Joe :)
rtmack wrote:
>Rick:
>Skip told me that there was a negative reaction within the SCTA regarding some
>of the
>2-wheeled SCs in the past. We were specifically talking about one that had
>outboard
>power.
>You are right that the Tularis and even the Boss Hoss blur the lines a
>little-- but I
>suspect that SCTA inspectors would still disallow those engines as SCTA-legal
>2-wheeled
>power, unless somebody gets them to officially re-consider the ruling. I
>personally
>think that snowmobile engines provide an interesting, practical, and safe
>alternative.
>And I agree that I'd rather have a gixxer (or 'busa) engine than any other
>4-stroke in
>a 2-wheeled LSR machine, up to 250 hp or so. (That's why I bought one.)
>Above that it
>looks like we probably need stronger lower ends, cases, etc. (People who have
>tried
>similar engines for Top Fuel drag bikes have had the unpleasant experience of
>running
>over their own crankshaft at high speed! Holy S___!)
>
>Lets find somebody to make some cast-iron gixxer blocks for us.
>Russ
>
>Rick Hammond wrote:
>
>>Hi Russ,
>>That's about what I figure. To be fair there have been some really scary V-8
>>contraptions over the years; maybe they are just terrified at the prospects.
>;-)
>>
>>Also, we have to realize anyways that a big bore GSXR etc. will crank out
>more than
>>some of these small v-8s depending how silly each gets, and would be a lot
>more
>>manageable.
>>
>>Blurring the lines would be the now 'production' Boss Hoss etc. bikes, and
>specials
>>like the Tularis; a very competent road racer with a snowmobile engine as the
>base.
>>Cheers,
>>Rick
>>
>>rtmack wrote:
>>
>>>Rick:
>>>I'm certainly no expert on the SCTA rules, but I've sure been reading them a
>lot,
>>>and thinking about the issues you raise. I read them to mean that a bike
>with an
>>>automobile (or or outboard boat) block would have to run FIA or FTO (for time
>>>only); I see no place for such machines under SCTA rules.
>>>Russ Mack
>>>
>>>Rick Hammond wrote:
>>>
>>>>Machining! KC has a big article on the Vance and Hines 'V-rod' pro-stock
>drag
>>>>bike. They CNC'd the 38lb engine block out of a 275lb chunk...160cu
>in...good
>>>>details on the metals etc.
>>>>About 340hp
>>>>The fun part is, even though it is a 'pro-stock' version of the V-rod
>>>>(sure...about as much as nascar runs Taurus's) it is push-rod.
>>>>Somebody has to talk these guys into running it on the salt. Ok, they would
>>>>need better cooling. Also, it looks like it does run afoul of the 'cam one
>>>>stroke below deck' rule.
>>>>Still neat.
>>>>
>>>>While we are at it; the bike rules state 'parts and components designed
>>>>primarily for use in motorcycle engines' Where does that leave a bike
>>>>with..let's say..a 215 Buick V-8?
>>>>Just curious ;-)
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Rick
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