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Re: Traction & Slipage

To: "Bryan A. Savage Jr" <basavage@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Traction & Slipage
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:42:35 -0500
Those cheap production electronics are the best money can buy!!
Dave Dahlgren

"Bryan A. Savage Jr" wrote:
> 
> Neil, you have cut to the heart of the "driver - gage interface".
> Without substantial "low- pass filtering (smoothing)" or dampening,
> the gage is "faster than the eye can see".
> This smoothing or dampening is what has generated the myth about revving
> an engine without a load. I would set the rev limiter off (11,000) when
> clearing/blipping the engine and the tach never went over 6,000.
> 
> How quick are electronics? Remember folks, OBD-II detects and identifies a
> misfiring cylinder by a change in angular velocity in part of one
> revolution. It then spends some time recording that information.
> And that's cheap production electronics.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> "Albaugh, Neil" wrote:
> >
> > John;
> >
> > The problem isn't in the fact that they're "digital"-- it's the fundamental
> > design of the tach electronics & readout mechanism. Most tachs (analog or
> > digital) are designed with so much low- pass filtering (smoothing) that they
> > can't follow fast engine RPM changes very well. I suspect this is done to
> > make the display look more steady to the average driver. There is one
> > limitation that affects some digital systems-- a fundamental limit imposed
> > by sampling speed-- its Nyquist limit. There is no good reason to be limited
> > by this these days. Even very high resolution ADCs and DACs can be obtained
> > that have sampling rates approaching 100MHz. They can respond to RPM signals
> > as fast as 20 billionths of a second. I had an '85 'Vette and I agree with
> > you regarding its video game display instrumentation-- flashy- looking but
> > poor response.
> >
> > Regards, Neil     Tucson, AZ

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