Hi Keith, List (Breaking the surface to get a breath of fresh ideas)
I think I'll go the home brew route, as a added benifit, I can make
use of some of the angle and channel iron I've been collecting.
Any comments on the beed roller - the 18-1/4" one - from Harbor?
Chad (Speaking parenthetical for some unknown reason)
Keith Turk wrote:
> Hey Chad welcome to the Surface..... Come back more often.
>
> I got a Cheap Sheet metal Brake from Northern or Harbor last year... and it
> was really rather average.... then Brad and I got to talking about what it
> was going to take to fix it... I stuck a piece of 2 1/2" angle iron on the
> front face that swivels... and it was an instant success.... Yesterday I
> was bending 2" strap 1/8" thick with no problems... ( Nitrous Brackets for
> the Trunk)
>
> I know a guy that build an 8' brake out of 3" angle and it's just fine...
> not fancy... and it might take a little more work.... but it's real
> doable... The best part about it is that it's not as bulky as my 4' because
> it's just a couple of pieces of angle with a swivel....and Clamping
> mechanisim
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <clab@bellsouth.net>
> To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: welding/metal work
>
> > Hi List (surfacing for a quick comment),
> > In my modest shop (average 2 car garage with room for one car) I have
> > gas/mig/stick. A month or so ago I made some test welds, cut some lengths
> > of 1 5/8 .134" ERW, notched and MIG'd it together. Cut it apart to check
> > penetration and was surprised to see the external look is no indication of
> the
> > quality of the weld. I ground an angle on the notched part, the best
> penetration
> >
> > occurred when I ran a root pass then a fill pass rather then try to weld
> in one
> > pass.
> > any comments? (Gonna start welding my cage in a few weeks)
> > My metal working equipment? sand bag, hammers (wood, steel, raw hide)
> > hammer forms. Want (need) to get a bead roller and (possible make)a brake
> this
> > year.
> > Bought a bench belt sander last year, don't know how I got along without.
> > Best sheet metal invention? Cleco clips! Dream tolls? Lathe and vertical
> mill.
> > Chad (sinking back under the surface)
> >
> > Nafzger wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > > I finally woke up and realized I left off a few old but very important
> > > tools. A 12' x 36" lathe, a Bridgeport "J"head mill, a Doall 18"
> bandsaw,
> > > Gas, MIG, and TIG welders,electric shears, an 8000# single post hoist in
> the
> > > shop floor (usually in the way but really handy), and all the normal
> hand
> > > tools. It may seem like I have a lot of stuff for a poor guy but realize
> how
> > > many years it took to accumulate it.
> > > Howard
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>
> > > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; "Skip &
> > > Joyce Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: welding/metal work
> > >
> > > > Keith,
> > > > I have a bead roller, shrinker and stretcher, and a 4' brake. Other
> than
> > > > that it's hammer and sandbag and hardwood hammer forms. I'm not very
> good
> > > at
> > > > it but too dumb to stop trying to get better.
> > > > Howard
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > > To: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham"
> > > > <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:39 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: welding/metal work
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Practice your Gas welding skills... cause that Tig is just about
> like it
> > > > > only better...
> > > > >
> > > > > Metal work.... Just curious how many of you are into Metal work? I
> was
> > > > > Talking to Joe the other day when I ordered my master cut off....
> > > > Anyway
> > > > > he was talking about a Motorized Bead roller and I think he has an
> > > English
> > > > > Wheel.... Who else out there is into the Metal smithing side of
> this?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not.... I am just fascinated with the skills of a fabricator...
> > > > someone
> > > > > who can design something in his head or on paper and come up with it
> as
> > > a
> > > > > REAL usefull product....
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith ( yep I was wrong then I admitted it.. then I followed through
> > > with
> > > > my
> > > > > own advice...hmmm )
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>;
> > > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:20 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Roll cage welding
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > After all the input on welding, I was starting to
> > > > > > get very leary of my own welding. I certainly
> > > > > > can't pass up an offer like this. Skip, it'll be
> > > > > > late summer, or even next fall, but I'll be
> > > > > > calling on you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Dick J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Skip & Joyce Higginbotham
> > > > > > <saltrat@pro-blend.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Dick,
> > > > > > > Rather than stick weld them I'd rather you
> > > > > > > brought the car over here to
> > > > > > > Bastrop and I'll TIG the cage for you.......or
> > > > > > > show you how to do it.
> > > > > > > Skip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 08:03 AM 1/17/01 , you wrote:
> > > > > > > >That's what I was looking for. Somebody who
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > >running with older technology welding. I've
> > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > >all the tubes on my roadster cage bent and
> > > > > > > tacked
> > > > > > > >in place. I would have to take a long day and
> > > > > > > >drive nearly five hundred miles to get the guy
> > > > > > > >who started the thing for me to finish weld
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >I've been leaning towards just running the
> > > > > > > beads
> > > > > > > >myself with my buzz box. I keep thinking:
> > > > > > > "This
> > > > > > > >ain't no 200 mph car. It's prolly not even
> > > > > > > going
> > > > > > > >to see 150." The rules only require a roll
> > > > > > > bar,
> > > > > > > >so the cage is just frosting (the kind I like
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > >-safety stuff). I dunno, I'll lay down some
> > > > > > > >practice beads in the spring - if they look
> > > > > > > good,
> > > > > > > >I'll go after the roll cage. If they look
> > > > > > > >crappy, I'll pack a picnic lunch and make the
> > > > > > > >drive to south Louisiana. Could take another
> > > > > > > >look at Phil Landry's car anyhow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Dick; My Vega cage was done with my buzz box
> > > > > > > >> and looks OK to me. But I
> > > > > > > >> haven't tested it yet and hope not to. Rich
> > > > > > > Fox
> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >> From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > >> To: The Butters Family <bbutters@dmi.net>;
> > > > > > > >> ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
> > > > > > > >> <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> > > > > > > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 02:40 PM
> > > > > > > >> Subject: List Police - Back to LSR !
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >Let's not beat the poor guy to death. I'm
> > > > > > > >> sure
> > > > > > > >> >that by now he get's the idea that the post
> > > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > > >> >inappropriate. He is into LSR, and we are
> > > > > > > >> into
> > > > > > > >> >LSR, so let's drop all of this and get back
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> >LSR. I don't think there are many among us
> > > > > > > >> who
> > > > > > > >> >haven't made some off-color remark, at some
> > > > > > > >> time
> > > > > > > >> >in our life, only to realize a second too
> > > > > > > >> late,
> > > > > > > >> >that a wife, preacher, teacher, or somebody
> > > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > > >> >present to make our face turn red and wish
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > >> >could hide under a rock.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >So, about this welding stuff. Back in the
> > > > > > > >> olden
> > > > > > > >> >days, were roll cages and chassis welded up
> > > > > > > >> more
> > > > > > > >> >with gas welding, or with buzz boxes?
> > > > > > > i.e.,
> > > > > > > >> >since it ain't gonna be mig or tig, which
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >> my
> > > > > > > >> >antiquated devices should I be using for
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > >> >kind of work? I personally like working
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> >torch, I can melt that stuff right to the
> > > > > > > >> point
> > > > > > > >> >of burning through, then start feeding rod.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> With
> > > > > > > >> >the buzz box, I sometimes burn holes, then
> > > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > > >> >to get the torch out and start melting in
> > > > > > > >> order
> > > > > > > >> >to fill them back up.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >=====
> > > > > > > >> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > > >> >* Dick J *
> > > > > > > >> >* (In East Texas) *
> > > > > > > >> >* # 729 *
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> > > > > > > >* (In East Texas) *
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