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Re: Motorcycle front-end Geometry

To: "Rick Byrnes" <rick@rbmotorsports.com>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Motorcycle front-end Geometry
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:53:15 -0600
Rick check your calander... this is Pick on Amo's day.... we are having a
two for one special.....

I ain't running no scooter.... my mommy still won't let me ride one.....

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Byrnes" <rick@rbmotorsports.com>
To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Motorcycle front-end Geometry


> OH God, now he's going to do a scooter.
> Keith, do you have purple leathers?
>
> Rick Byrnes
> We have enough youth...........How about a fountain of smart
> www.rbmotorsports.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Clay, Dale" <Dale.Clay@mdhelicopters.com>; "'Henry Deaton'"
> <hdeaton@verio.com>; "List Land Speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Motorcycle front-end Geometry
>
>
> > Henry... I am throwing this opinion out there based on nothing but my
> > concept of how to go fast and try and be semi reliable....
> >
> > I went to the Website and checked out the front end.... try as I might I
> > couldn't see how the steering was applied to the front end.... nor could
I
> > see the real benefits from it over a simple triple clamp/ conventional
> Folk
> > arrangement....
> >
> > I guess what I am trying to say is could you enlighten me as to the
> > advantages of a system this complicated....
> >
> > Keith ( big fan of the KISS principal )
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Clay, Dale <Dale.Clay@mdhelicopters.com>
> > > To: 'Henry Deaton' <hdeaton@verio.com>; List Land Speed
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Subject: RE: Motorcycle Front-End Geometry
> > > Date: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:01 PM
> > >
> > > Henry,
> > >
> > > I don't have much experience with "lay down" bikes but those numbers
are
> > > pretty close to what fuel bikes run and they're up around 230 for
blown
> > > fours and 200 for twins.
> > >
> > > With the limited amount of travel required, I doubt you need as
> > complicated
> > > a suspension as that, but if you want to play with it ...
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > > Hey Dick J. is that your 300K mile bemmer in the photo?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henry Deaton [mailto:hdeaton@verio.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:44 PM
> > > To: List Land Speed
> > > Subject: Motorcycle Front-End Geometry
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm finally ready to start building my electric LSR bike. Here's what
> > I've
> > > got planned so far:
> > >
> > > Hossack-style front end, 1.5" travel:
> > > http://www.eurospares.com/tfoale/mmjpg/tfbmw.jpg
> > > solid rear end
> > > 3.5x17 front wheel, with a 120/60ZR17 tire
> > > 4.5x18 rear wheel, with a 160/60ZR18 tire
> > > wheelbase around 70" (bike needs to fit on my 4x8 trailer)
> > > weight without rider about 600 lbs, with rider around 760 lbs.
> > > Forklift motor
> > > CVT snowmobile transmission
> > > 270 lbs AGM batteries, 120 volts
> > >
> > > Speed should be in the 150 to 175 mph range? (well, ya gotta have a
> goal,
> >
> > > right?)
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone on the list has any thoughts about front-end
> > > geometry. I'm thinking of using a front rake around 40 to 45 degrees,
> and
> >
> > > about 8 to 10 inches of trail. That's what a guy that builds dragbike
> > > frames recommended to me.
> > >
> > > Any comments or questions would be appreciated. I've done some drag
> > racing
> > > with electric bikes in the past, but this LSR stuff is pretty new to
me.
> > > Mainly looking for tips on how to build a bike for straight-line
> > stability
> > > at El Mirage and Bonneville.
> > >
> > > BTW, only 115 days until El Mirage.
> > >
> > > Henry Deaton
> > > SF, CA

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