Didn't Mean to put you on the spot Tom.... But guys like you and John
Beckett Hold records over two bills on the salt... That makes you experts...
That and your absolute knowledge of the Internal Combusion engine....
niether one of you take the credit you deserve.
Thanks for the info....Keith ....
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas E. Bryant <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Land Speed <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:57 AM
Subject: Re:Oiling!
> Keith,
>
> Sorry I haven't jumped in sooner with my views on your oiling problems,
> but I have been busy trying to get my computer to be more useful in my
> life. It is a business and pleasure unit that is getting too full to
> function well. After several attempts at restoring the programs,
> updating, etc., I finally went out yesterday and bought a 10.2 GB hard
> drive to add to the 2.1 GB. Now maybe I can do all the things I want
> without be concerned with overload. I guess you might say that I am
> "hopping it up", they assured me that it would also be faster.
>
> Since this might be of interest to others, I have responded to the group
> as well. Over the years I have used several configurations to meet my
> oiling needs. I can tell you some things that haven't worked! I
> originally ran a Desoto V-8, normal oil pressure was in the 60 lb range.
> We boosted the pressure by adding shims behind the relief valve in the
> pump. Of course through experiment, I found that a gear pump will put
> out lots of pressure without adequate maximum pressure control, too much
> pressure can be harmful to the engine just as too little pressure can.
> After a while we settled for 100 lbs. as a good number. All of this was
> done with a stock oil pan and really not oil pressure problems.
>
> When we switched to the Chevrolet engine, it was really difficult to get
> accustomed to oil pressure needs. After a few filter failures, we
> settled for 60 lbs of pressure with good success. The Chevy system moves
> a lot of oil at the lower pressures. This of course requires can present
> problems of oil return to the pan on long runs. I'm sure that you have
> restricted the upper oiling, adequate engine breathing is also a must to
> let the oil return to the sump. We have evolved from a stock pan, to a
> six quart pan, to a custom 8 quart pan with kickouts on the sump, to our
> present dry sump.
>
> The dry sump is the best way to go, but the 8 quart pan worked fine for
> me. the reason for the dry sump was to get lower profile ground
> clearance. We use a teflon windage tray in our present setup and also
> had one in the 8 quart system. At one time we also had a crank wiper,
> but it is lots of work getting that setup prepared and I haven't
> bothered with this system.
>
> We use a 20/50 oil, although we don't have one, I think that an oil
> heater is a good idea. I have run for several years without a dipstick,
> but I'm not sure how I feel about this issue. With alky it is easy to
> get too much alcohol into the oil by running too rich. I was on the low
> side of the learning curve and didn't realize how quickly that could
> happen, so I spun a bearing due to not being able to monitor the oil.
> With the dry sump, I can look into the tank and keep on top of it that
> way. The need for the dipstick, in my estimation, is not to make sure
> that you have enough oil, but to make sure that it is not contaminated.
>
> In my opinion the things to watch are: If you are using a high volume
> pump, keep the oil pressure moderate. Be absolutely certain that no more
> oil than is needed is getting to the engine. Plug all oil returns to the
> pan except at the ends of the lifter galley. Use adequate venting of the
> crankcase, a vacuum system would be encouraged. A good windage tray is a
> must, making sure that the oil level is below that point. Use a good
> custom oil pump pickup with proper clearance from the bottom of the pan.
> That's my quarter's worth. Good Luck! BTW I'm a little jealous that you
> left coast guys are aready racing. Of course I'm not ready anyway.
>
> Tom, Redding CA - #216 D/CC
>
> Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > I was kinda interested in Seeing your thoughts on Oiling Problems... and
> > what your running for an oiling system...
> >
> > K
>
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