Thanks for the feedback on the website! I have noticed that very few people
look past the home page to view our links to other websites though.
In reference to your comments, we are planning on putting a guard
over the belt, but moreso to protect the fiberglass hood. Since we are
running braided stainless aircraft lines throughout the entire car, a shield
is not necessary to protect the fuel lines in case of supercharger belt
failure. While Ron Pruett encountered problems with the Super-speedway
tires, everyone forgets that Mike Cook went 290 in his T-bird with those
very same treads, with a motor combination similar to ours, except he was
burning pure Methanol. Pruett also has his engine set back right to the 25%
limit for the altered class, and as a result will encounter different
handling problems than we will with only 9% setback. We can ballast our
firebird to about 4600 lbs., and bias the distribution throughout the car to
tune the chassis. Also, regarding the aerodynamic wall- I am not familiar
with Dave Parks 69 Camaro. I will state that Lee Van Prothero ran almost 220
with a gas burning injected big block, about 20 years ago. With close to
2000 hp on tap, I will hang myself from the rafters of my garage if I can't
exceed the 225 mph "wall"-NO JOKE! Thanks for the input. See you on the
salt.
Darrell Ferguson
BLACK RADON ENGINEERING
# 939 BBFALT
http://my.cybersoup.com/blackradon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Butters [SMTP:bbutters@dmi.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 10:11 AM
> To: 'Ferguson, Darrell'
> Subject: RE: Motor options
>
> Hi Darrell, Just visited your very nice web
> site, nice site awesome car, but of course I have to make a few comments,
> Don't forget to put a metal guard between your blower belt and fuel lines.
> It will be interesting to see how your areo aids work, after watching Dave
> Parks 69 camaro run It looks like the areo wall is around 225 for this
> body style. It also looks like you are running Super speedway tires on the
> rear, as I do, however don't know as how that's a good choice above 230,
> this is in light of Ron Pruitts testing on his 258mph T-bird. He found
> that running the M/T Bonnivile tires gave him much better stability and
> speed than the Nascar tires. Theirs a write up about it a year or so ago
> in BRN. Take Care Kvach #1392 BB/Galt
>
> ----------
> From: Ferguson, Darrell[SMTP:dfergus@bactc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:47 AM
> To: 'Beth Butters'; Joseph Timney; 'Keith Turk'
> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Motor options
>
> Not to bash anyone who is unfortunate enough to hurt a motor at
> Bonneville,
> but there are not too many guys running blown and injected motors with a
> fuel system that's really dialed in for the application. I see many cars
> running nothing more than a main jet. While Bonneville is primarily wide
> open throttle, you still need to spool the motor up to get there. Some of
> these cars load up and start dropping cylinders at idle (if they start),
> as
> well as through the midrange, and hopefully clean out before they enter
> the
> first mile.Last year, I watched a guy try to start a blown gas belly
> tanker
> with a can of spray start. When they couldn't fire the motor, they decided
> to push start the car, and I could smell the Ether as the car went past
> me!
> I know a lot of guys just like to use spare parts that are sitting on the
> shelf that would otherwise collect dust. Unfortunately, when these
> marginal
> parts either fail, or cannot perform, the result is something none of us
> like to think about. For the money we all pay to enter our cars to race,
> to
> tow to get out there, as well as what's in the vehicle itself, I am
> astounded at the # of guys who'll save $60.00 on a bypass valve for the
> fuel
> system. Especially on vehicles running in blown gas classes where the
> air/fuel ratio is much more crucial, the results can be disastrous.
>
> Darrell Ferguson
> BLACK RADON ENGINEERING
> # 939 BBFALT
> http://my.cybersoup.com/blackradon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth Butters [SMTP:bbutters@dmi.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:50 AM
> > To: Joseph Timney; 'Keith Turk'
> > Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: Motor options
> >
> > Kieth, Have been running my blown altered, or helping
> with
> > my buddy, Bob Ragsdales Blast from the Past 53 Stude for the last 6
> > years. Bobs car has been powered by a 355 chev.since l994. He has
> lost
> > a motor nearly every year. Finally got it right last year, interceder
> > under the 671 blower , endrele injection ect.an 200 at the 2 mile with
> > 2,5 gears which is the top of 3rd gear. The krugal firebirds 300 mph
> > blasts forced him to drop down to a D motor which will not have much
> of
> > an effect on his performance, so don't expect that 2l3mph record to last
> > to long. You need to take a look at the rule book and note the need
> for
> > higher caliber driving suit, boots and gloves also more on board fire
> > ext. If you decide to go blown, figure on the best of everything, a
> > $3000 Bow tie block, high dollar rods, crank and pistons, dry sump I
> > wouldn't mess with B&Ms blower go to Kuhl or BDS 671 type. If you
> > want to go Turbo, Dave Parks camaro is a good one!
> > !
> > to look at as its rather low tech, but very dependable, Ak Miller
> helped
> > him a lot with it. Probably cost less than Bobs setup and a tubo
> setup
> > especially with EFI probably has more ultimate performance. Well I've
> > got to go put that old hemi together and see if it will run again for
> > WOS, it's about l964 technology and on it's best day won't push the
> > Stude faster than 210mph but it's been 5 years since I've driven and I
> > need to get some seat time before I warm it up to 1970 technology.
> Good
> > luck L. Kvach Butters
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Keith Turk[SMTP:kturk@ala.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 7:08 AM
> > To: Joseph Timney
> > Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Motor options
> >
> > Thanks Joe.... always appreciate the imput... trying to get the list
> going
> > again mostly.... I know where there is a B&M supercharger and I am
> > thinking
> > about it .. I know the learning curve isn't shallow... but I already
> built
> > the car and it Performs as I expected... and the Damn Blown record is 9
> > mph
> > slower.. so away we go.... k
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Joseph Timney <TIMNEYJJ@sterlingdi.com>
> > > To: kturk@ala.net; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: Motor options
> > > Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 3:20 AM
> > >
> > > Keith,
> > > Both turbo-charger or blower motors are a steep learning curve ! Any
> > wrong move gets expensive in a hurry. Having said that, if you want to
> > take
> > this next step, my suggestion is to buy a high dollar data recording
> > system
> > that records boost, exhaust tempertures of all 8 cylinders, water, oil
> air
> > tempertures, etc.This info will be vital to your motors well being.
> > >
> > > Then buy a complete motor from a reliable engine builder who does lots
> > of
> > water cooled Blower motors, like Jim Oddy. Jim has a wealth of knowedge
> > and
> > you can tap into that database when you purchase a new bullet from him.
> > Some of the boat motor people may be right up your alley, as boats run a
> > long time like a B-Ville car. I have drag racing experience with a blown
> > setup but Maxton and B-ville are different. I know I cannot run the lead
> > or
> > lean mixtures used in dragracing there. Successfully playing with a
> blower
> > motor is about knowing how much boost it will take before it eats it
> self
> > !
> > My problem was I kept trying to cheat ( that doesn't work )
> > >
> > > If you want to bench race , give me a call in my shop any night, I
> > answer
> > the phone after 7 PM (302) 378.3013
> > > >>> "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net> 09/06 2:10 AM >>>
> > > Well since we hurt the D motor pretty bad.... I have been trying to
> > decide
> > > a direction to take the whole effort....
> > >
> > > My Racing Partner and I sat about tonight discussing the various
> options
> > > and records that are just laying out there for the taking.... and we
> > are
> > > thinking now would be a good time to go to a Turbo charger or a
> > Blower....
> > > especially since the Pistons are junk in the motor... and the heads
> have
> > to
> > > be replaced.... this all having been said... anyone have experience
> with
> > > the conversion they have done?
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Turk
> > > Austin Healey 100 / Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed
> Racer
> > > Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
> > >
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