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Thank you and I do like the look of that lo temp silver solder for other
applications and maybe if I haven't fixed it.
There is no definitive crack as such. It is block cast iron porosity. It
oozes very slowly from an area of about 1.5 x 1 in.
Access is limited too. Just hoping that there are no other porous areas.
A proper fix to my mind would be engine out; block stripped and vacuum
resin impregnation - probably not going to happen for now
What intrigues me is that this is in exactly the same location as Wayne's
friend had.
So it surely is a weakness of this block ?
Wonder how many others there are out there - some maybe unknown too ?
I only picked it up by noting the creamy damp gunge in the inside of the
valve cover.
Remember too that less than a teaspoon of glycol in the oil triggers the
oil analysis alarm.
rg
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> I am definitely not an expert however I have successfully repaired some
> irreplaceable cast Iron water pump impellers using this product.
> https://www.silfos.com/EN/Products/EASY-FLO-45.htm
> I opted to use this because a very much lower temperature is required.
>
> M
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.ne=
t> wrote:
>
>> MIG/TIG isn't usually effective on cast iron. Brazing might be your best
>> bet, and plenty strong. I brazed a mis-sized plug on a so-called 'uprate=
d'
>> water pump for my BN2 that wouldn't otherwise seal up and the result was
>> good, but I feared I'd damaged the seal. Clean best you can and use a go=
od
>> flux.
>>
>> https://www.reliance-foundry.com/blog/how-to-weld-cast-iron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/15/2024 8:05 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Congratulations on finding the leak. I would not have much confidence in
>> any epoxy. The area would need to be impeccably clean including inside t=
he
>> actual crack & the block gets very hot. I wonder if it might be a candid=
ate
>> for an expert MIG/TIG welder?
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 11:00:46 PM CDT, Wayne Schultz via Healey=
s
>> <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, it was!
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net=
> wrote:
>>
>> Wayne - you are a star !
>> I got lucky and think that I have found it.
>> Started by removing the center tappet side cover.
>> Just like your experience - mine is below the center cover mounting boss=
;
>> there is a ridge there just above the distributor drive.
>> Was this where the one you worked on was ?
>> Actually looks someone tried to repair it before. Have no idea what they
>> used, but is a soft white putty like substance and the oozing got worse
>> when I removed it. Had the coolant under pressure.
>> So now have to clean up and think about a repair technique.
>> Thank you for responding .
>> rg
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace@telus.net>
>> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:15=E2=80=AFAM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil
>> To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>
>> Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>
>>
>> Wayne,
>> Thank you. That sounds very similar to my situation. Not quite sure that
>> I understand what you mean by the boss that goes down to the sump ? Is t=
his
>> the oil return path - interesting. Yes, my plan is to get the pan off an=
d
>> pressurize the coolant with some dye in it and hopefully locate it.
>> So your repair was done with the tappet side covers off ? Maybe that is =
a
>> block weakness and I get lucky with a similar fault.
>> rg
>>
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>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:14=E2=80=AFPM Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Roger,
>> My friend who had a Healey 3000 had a similar issue. We would
>> find coolant in the oil on the dipstick and filler cap. I found when we
>> pressurized the cooling system with the engine warm, no leak noted, with
>> the engine cold a slight coolant leak in pressure. I decided to drop the
>> oil pan to look for leaks and found a very slight leak internally drippi=
ng
>> into the oil pan area. We found that the leak was from the boss in betwe=
en
>> the 6 and 7 tappets. With that tappet cover off we could see coolant
>> drips forming in that boss running down into the pan area. It would only
>> leak when cold. Porosity? I think so. I decided to Peen the boss with a
>> punch and seal with JB Weld. It has been good ever since. I suggest
>> dropping your oil pan to look for leaks might be the least invasive firs=
t
>> step in locating your problem. Good luck.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thank you and I do like the look of that lo temp silv=
er solder for other applications and maybe if I haven't fixed it.</div>=
<div>There is no definitive crack as such. It is block cast iron porosity. =
It oozes very slowly from an area of about 1.5 x 1 in.</div><div>Access is =
limited too. Just hoping that there are no other porous areas.<br></div><di=
v>A proper fix to my mind would be engine out; block stripped and vacuum re=
sin impregnation - probably not going to happen for now<br></div><div>What =
intrigues me is that this is in exactly the same location as Wayne's fr=
iend had. <br></div><div>So it surely is a weakness of this block ?<br></di=
v><div>Wonder how many others there are out there - some maybe unknown too =
?<br></div><div>I only picked it up by noting the creamy damp gunge in the =
inside of the valve cover. <br></div><div>Remember too that less than a tea=
spoon of glycol in the oil triggers the oil analysis alarm.</div><div>rg<br=
></div><div>rg<br></div><div><br></div></div><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ma=
r 16, 2024 at 7:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaels=
alter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I am defi=
nitely not an expert however I have successfully repaired some irreplaceabl=
e cast Iron water pump impellers using this product.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a href=
=3D"https://www.silfos.com/EN/Products/EASY-FLO-45.htm"; target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://www.silfos.com/EN/Products/EASY-FLO-45.htm</a></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I opted=
to use this because a very much lower temperature is required.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12=E2=80=AFAM B=
ob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bs=
pidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
=20
=20
=20
<div>
MIG/TIG isn't usually effective on cast iron. Brazing might be your
best bet, and plenty strong. I brazed a mis-sized plug on a
so-called 'uprated' water pump for my BN2 that wouldn't oth=
erwise
seal up and the result was good, but I feared I'd damaged the seal.
Clean best you can and use a good flux.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.reliance-foundry.com/blog/how-to-weld-cast-iron"=
target=3D"_blank">https://www.reliance-foundry.com/blog/how-to-weld-cast-i=
ron</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>On 3/15/2024 8:05 AM, warthodson--- via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div style=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Congratulations on finding
the leak. I would not have much confidence in any epoxy. The
area would need to be impeccably clean including inside the
actual crack & the block gets very hot. I wonder if it
might be a candidate for an expert MIG/TIG welder?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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l,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 11:00:46 PM CDT, Wayne
Schultz via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox.team.net></a> wrote: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
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6fyiv3499248027">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, it was!=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu,
Mar 14, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace <<a s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noopener=
" target=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.net</a>>
wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Wayne - you are a star !</div>
<div>I got lucky and think that I have found it.</d=
iv>
<div>Started by removing the center tappet side
cover.</div>
<div>Just like your experience - mine is below
the center cover mounting boss; there is a
ridge there just above the distributor drive.</di=
v>
<div>Was this where the one you worked on was ?<br =
clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Actually looks someone tried to repair it
before. Have no idea what they used, but is a
soft white putty like substance and the oozing
got worse when I removed it. Had the coolant
under pressure.</div>
<div>So now have to clean up and think about a
repair technique.</div>
<div>Thank you for responding .</div>
<div>rg<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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>
From: <b>Roger Grace</b> <span><<a shape=
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Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:15=E2=80=AFAM<br=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil<br clear=
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To: Wayne Schultz <<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:waschu2@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noopener" target=3D"_blank"=
>waschu2@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Cc: <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener" target=3D"_blank">healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
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<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Wayne,</div>
<div>Thank you. That sounds very similar
to my situation. Not quite sure that I
understand what you mean by the boss
that goes down to the sump ? Is this the
oil return path - interesting. Yes, my
plan is to get the pan off and
pressurize the coolant with some dye in
it and hopefully locate it.=C2=A0</div>
<div>So your repair was done with the
tappet side covers off ? Maybe that is a
block weakness and I get lucky with a
similar fault.</div>
<div>rg<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Roger,
<div>My friend who had=C2=A0a=C2=A0 Heale=
y 3000
had=C2=A0 a similar issue. We would
find=C2=A0coolant=C2=A0in the oil on th=
e
dipstick and filler cap. I found
when we pressurized the cooling
system with the engine warm, no leak
noted, with the engine cold a slight
coolant leak in pressure. I decided
to drop the oil pan to look for
leaks and found a very slight leak
internally dripping into the oil pan
area. We found that the leak was
from the boss in between the 6 and 7
tappets.=C2=A0 With that=C2=A0 tappet c=
over
off we could see coolant drips
forming in that boss running down
into the pan area. It would only
leak when cold. Porosity? I think
so. I decided to Peen=C2=A0 the boss wi=
th
a punch and seal with JB Weld. It
has been good ever since. I suggest
dropping=C2=A0your oil pan to look for
leaks might be the least invasive
first step in locating your
problem.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Good luck.=C2=A0<=
/div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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