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To: John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hydraulic system maintenance
From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:25:25 +0000 (UTC)
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 I should have said I was specifically asking about anodized aluminum=C2=A0=
 master cylinders.Gary Hodson=C2=A0
    On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 03:59:34 PM CDT, warthodson--- via Healey=
s <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
  Has anyone found a source for new aluminum cylinders that are anodized? I=
 read that the way to test them is to measure the continuity of the surface=
. Anodized won't conduct. I checked a few & either they were not anodized o=
r if they were they bored out the cylinder after anodizing. Is it possible =
that if the bore is smooth/polished, as opposed to honing which is coarse, =
the rubber seal will last as long as it would in an anodized bore? And the =
bore should last long enough (years, decades) since it is harder that the r=
ubber seal.Gary Hodson=C2=A0=C2=A0
    On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 08:58:42 AM CDT, Michael Salter <michaels=
alter@gmail.com> wrote:=20
 Although some of the drivers handbooks recommended changing the fluid ever=
y 3 years and all the seals and hoses every 6 years or so=C2=A0 I, like Mir=
ek, I've never bothered and have had no significant issues.That said howeve=
r your clutch system, having been dry for some time, will most likely requi=
re new seals as they get a bit "crusty" when left exposed to the air for lo=
ng periods.BTW ...NEVER hone aluminium cylinders. They have a hard anodised=
 coating inside the bores which honing will destroy. The remaining unanodiz=
ed aluminium is too soft for use as a cylinder bore.
M

On Thu., Jun. 15, 2023, 1:47 a.m. John Spaur via Healeys, <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:


Hello,

=C2=A0

I am seeking the collective wisdom of my fellow Austin-Healey owners.

=C2=A0

I restored my BT7 10 years ago and I drive it about 500 miles a year at the=
 most. In the last few years, while the pandemic was in progress, it has be=
en even less.

About a year ago I installed a remote clutch bleeder tube and I did not tig=
hten the bleed nipple sufficiently. As a result, fluid leaked out and I nee=
d to bleed the air out of the clutch system.

=C2=A0

However, I was wondering, because it has been ten years since the hydraulic=
 system was completely restored, if it would be wise to rebuild all of the =
cylinders in the brake and clutch system.

=C2=A0

Also, would it be wise to replace the front caliper flexible hoses and the =
flexible hose under the jumper seats. It should be noted that all three hos=
es do not seem to have hardened and there are not any other problems with t=
he hydraulic system other than having to bleed the clutch line because of t=
he air leak.

=C2=A0

What are your thoughts?

=C2=A0

John Spaur

=E2=80=9962 BT7
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp6420c80byahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I should have said I was spe=
cifically asking about anodized aluminum&nbsp; master cylinders.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary Hodson&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yahoo_quoted_7368179021" class=3D"ydp35=
ec0647yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 03:59:34 PM CDT, warthods=
on--- via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp35ec=
0647yiv5174270855ydp47ae7afdyahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone found a source for new aluminum cylinde=
rs that are anodized? I read that the way to test them is to measure the co=
ntinuity of the surface. Anodized won't conduct. I checked a few &amp; eith=
er they were not anodized or if they were they bored out the cylinder after=
 anodizing. Is it possible that if the bore is smooth/polished, as opposed =
to honing which is coarse, the rubber seal will last as long as it would in=
 an anodized bore? And the bore should last long enough (years, decades) si=
nce it is harder that the rubber seal.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyahoo_quoted_77=
08015720" class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyahoo_quoted">
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                <div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855yqt32325" class=3D"ydp35=
ec0647yiv5174270855yqt1944074695"><div>
                    On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 08:58:42 AM CDT, Michael =
Salter &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv24565=
70294"><div><div>Although some of the drivers handbooks recommended changin=
g the fluid every 3 years and all the seals and hoses every 6 years or so&n=
bsp; I, like Mirek, I've never bothered and have had no significant issues.=
<div>That said however your clutch system, having been dry for some time, w=
ill most likely require new seals as they get a bit "crusty" when left expo=
sed to the air for long periods.</div><div>BTW ...NEVER hone aluminium cyli=
nders. They have a hard anodised coating inside the bores which honing will=
 destroy. The remaining unanodized aluminium is too soft for use as a cylin=
der bore.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>M</div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855=
ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp=
696a27ebyiv2456570294yqt66458" class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27eb=
yiv2456570294yqt7178328599"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270=
855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294gmail_attr">On Thu., Jun. 15, 2023, 1:47 a.m. Jo=
hn Spaur via Healeys, &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855yd=
p696a27ebyiv2456570294gmail_quote"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"ydp=
35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"=
><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv=
2456570294MsoNormal">I am seeking the collective wisdom of my fellow Austin=
-Healey owners.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696=
a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec064=
7yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal">I restored my BT7 10 years=
 ago and I drive it about 500 miles a year at the most. In the last few yea=
rs, while the pandemic was in progress, it has been even less.<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"=
>About a year ago I installed a remote clutch bleeder tube and I did not ti=
ghten the bleed nipple sufficiently. As a result, fluid leaked out and I ne=
ed to bleed the air out of the clutch system.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNorm=
al">However, I was wondering, because it has been ten years since the hydra=
ulic system was completely restored, if it would be wise to rebuild all of =
the cylinders in the brake and clutch system.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNorm=
al">Also, would it be wise to replace the front caliper flexible hoses and =
the flexible hose under the jumper seats. It should be noted that all three=
 hoses do not seem to have hardened and there are not any other problems wi=
th the hydraulic system other than having to bleed the clutch line because =
of the air leak.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp69=
6a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec06=
47yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal">What are your thoughts?<u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv245657029=
4MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp=
696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal">John Spaur<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp=
35ec0647yiv5174270855ydp696a27ebyiv2456570294MsoNormal">=E2=80=9962 BT7<u><=
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