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Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes

To: "'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE'" <ynotink@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes
From: Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:37:44 +0000 gFfFz9RN3nzgEG8hApdDDqxMfayhINf5gc0p00STEXeLti8mzVjwi+U1tLhTzk4PjtALRt3G43nONk0GGiu6v0jbTbHwbCnHedPNWLCVHvbD0vRYBcwgS4au
Cc: 'Hank Leach via Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Bill-correct, these are cylinders that I had sleeved by Apple for the=0A=
rear of the 100 (with handbrake mechanism) They in fact questioned why=
=0Athere were two different type of receiver "ports" for the same item.=
=0AYes, they receive steel lines. The flex line is at the three way=0Aco=
nnector. Every supplier for current hoses show one flat end and one=0Afl=
ared end for use in ALL Healeys. The flare going into the flare nut=0Aof=
 the steel line. Copper washers are then used at the "flat "end into=0At=
he wheel cylinder.. Hank=0A=0A=09---------------------------------------=
--From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" =0ATo: "Hank Leach via Healeys", "warthodso=
n@aol.com", "Hank Leach"=0ACc: =0ASent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:12:5=
6PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=0A    Correction as I n=
otice the cylinders shown appear to be double=0Aended, they would probab=
ly be used on the rear brakes and the=0A=E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and =E2=
=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports would be the supply ports for the=0Asolid tub=
es from the three way fitting on the axle housing. Both of=0Athe other p=
orts would be bleeders.  =0A  Bill Lawrence =0A-------------------------=
=0AFROM: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE =0ASENT: Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM=
=0ATO: Hank Leach via Healeys ; 'warthodson@aol.com' ; Hank Leach =0ASUB=
JECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes     The Girling brakes=0Acylinders=
 I have dealt with use a copper washer to seal to the supply=0Aport. The=
y didn=E2=80=99t use any type of flare. The =E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and=
=0A=E2=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports on the cylinders shown were made to mat=
ch a bubble=0Aflare or a double flare solid line respectively. These are=
 the=0Atransfer ports between the double cylinders on the Girling dual=
=0Aleading shoe braking system used on the front of the 100 and 100-6.=
=0AThe transfer pipes currently available use double flares on both ends=
=0Aso the bubble flare port may not be compatible. The The ports that ar=
e=0Aangled are the correct ports for the supply hoses (upper) and bleede=
r=0Ascrews (lower). The hoses screw into the upper angled port and seal=
=0Awith copper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use a tapered=0A=
sealing surface or a flat surface with a round indentation and a small=
=0Asteel ball. =0A Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 =0A=0A------------------------=
-=0AFROM: Healeys  on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys =0ASENT: Saturday=
, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM=0ATO: 'warthodson@aol.com' =0ACC: 'healeys@a=
utox.team.net' =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes    Do you mean=
 "wheel"=0Acylinders and not "slave"...100s have a mechanical clutch. I=
=0Aunderstand that on all model Healeys the brake hoses have one threade=
d=0Aend and one flared end. That flare goes into the metal line nut. =0A=
 On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF thread but=0A=
switched over to the Girling unified thread on later releases. The=0Able=
eder connection can be either in or out in shape (photo) but if the=0Abl=
eed screw is flat it uses the check ball (supplied in rebuild kits)=0Aan=
d fits the recessed shape. The pointed bleeder uses no check ball.=0ABe=
 sure that you were supplied the correct threaded hose...most=0Asupplier=
s do not have the early style. Use Girling red grease on the=0Athreads.=
 Hank=0A=0A=09----------------------------------------- From: "warthodso=
n--- via=0AHealeys"=0A To: "healeys@autox.team.net"=0A Cc:=0A Sent: Frid=
ay February 24 2023 5:15:16PM=0A Subject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes=0A=
=0AI will be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 100=
=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the end=
s=0Athat thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the mating=
=0Asurface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat & it is my=0Aund=
erstanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender says=0Athis i=
s not a problem. I think it is a problem. What do you say? =0AAlso, if i=
t is an issue, where can we get a set of flex hoses that=0Ahave the corr=
ect ends for this application & are also the correct=0Alength (I.E. Not=
 too short)? Gary Hodson=0A

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<html><body>Bill-correct, these are cylinders that I had sleeved by Appl=
e for the rear of the 100 (with handbrake mechanism) They in fact questi=
oned why there were two different type of receiver "ports" for the same=
 item. Yes, they receive steel lines.&nbsp; The flex line is at the thre=
e way connector. Every supplier for current hoses show one flat end and=
 one flared end for use in ALL Healeys. The flare going into the flare n=
ut of the steel line. Copper washers are then used at the "flat "end int=
o the wheel cylinder.. Hank<div><br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signatur=
e"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "WILLIAM=
 B LAWRENCE" <ynotink@msn.com><br>To: "Hank Leach via Healeys", "warthod=
son@aol.com", "Hank Leach"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Saturday February 25 2023 1:=
12:56PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<br><br>=0A<div style=
=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;background-color=
:transparent;">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:i=
nherit;color:inherit;background-color:transparent;">=0ACorrection as I n=
otice the cylinders shown appear to be double=0Aended, they would probab=
ly be used on the rear brakes and the=0A=E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and =E2=
=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports would be the supply ports for the solid=0Atub=
es from the three way fitting on the axle housing. Both of the=0Aother p=
orts would be bleeders.</div>=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-s=
ize:inherit;color:inherit;background-color:transparent;">=0A<br></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;bac=
kground-color:transparent;">=0ABill Lawrence</div>=0A<hr style=3D"width:=
98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-=
size:11pt;" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> WILLIAM B=0ALAWRENCE &lt;ynot=
ink@msn.com&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 25, 2023 9:04 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;;=0A'wart=
hodson@aol.com' &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt;; Hank Leach=0A&lt;gradea1@cha=
rter.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes</font>=0A=
<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>The Girling brakes cylinders I=
 have dealt with use a copper=0Awasher to seal to the supply port. They=
 didn=E2=80=99t use any type of=0Aflare. The =E2=80=9Cinee=E2=80=9D and=
 =E2=80=9Coutee=E2=80=9D ports on the cylinders shown were=0Amade to mat=
ch a bubble flare or a double flare solid line=0Arespectively. These are=
 the transfer ports between the double=0Acylinders on the Girling dual l=
eading shoe braking system used on=0Athe front of the 100 and 100-6. The=
 transfer pipes currently=0Aavailable use double flares on both ends so=
 the bubble flare port=0Amay not be compatible. The The ports that are a=
ngled are the=0Acorrect ports for the supply hoses (upper) and bleeder s=
crews=0A(lower). The hoses screw into the upper angled port and seal wit=
h=0Acopper washers. The bleeder screws as noted may use a tapered=0Aseal=
ing surface or a flat surface with a round indentation and a=0Asmall ste=
el ball.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Bill Lawrence</div>=0A<div>BN1 #=
554</div>=0A<br><hr style=3D"width:98%;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"=
Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt;"><b>From=
:</b> Healeys=0A&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Hank=
 Leach via=0AHealeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Satu=
rday, February 25, 2023 6:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'warthodson@aol.com' &lt;w=
arthodson@aol.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'healeys@autox.team.net'=0A&lt;heale=
ys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<=
/font>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>Do you mean "wheel" cylinders=
 and not "slave"...100s have a=0Amechanical clutch. I understand that on=
 all model Healeys the brake=0Ahoses have one threaded end and one flare=
d end. That flare goes=0Ainto the metal line nut.=0A<div><br></div>=0A<d=
iv>On the early 100 wheel cylinders they used an American AF=0Athread bu=
t switched over to the Girling unified thread on later=0Areleases. The b=
leeder connection can be either in or out in shape=0A(photo) but if the=
 bleed screw is flat it uses the check ball=0A(supplied in rebuild kits)=
 and fits the recessed shape. The pointed=0Ableeder uses no check ball.&=
nbsp; Be sure that you were supplied=0Athe correct threaded hose...most=
 suppliers do not have the early=0Astyle. Use Girling red grease on the=
 threads. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"x_x_reply-new-signature"></div>=0A<p=
>-----------------------------------------</p>=0AFrom: "warthodson--- vi=
a Healeys"<br>=0ATo: "healeys@autox.team.net"<br>=0ACc:<br>=0ASent: Frid=
ay February 24 2023 5:15:16PM<br>=0ASubject: [Healeys] 100 front brakes<=
br><br><div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12pt 'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif=
;">I=0Awill be assisting a friend to replace the flexible hoses on his 1=
00=0Afront brakes. He has ordered and received a set of hoses, but the=
=0Aends that thread into the slave Cyl do not match the shape of the=0Am=
ating surface in the slave. The ends of the hoses are flat &amp; it is=
=0Amy understanding that the cyl. is cone shaped inside. The vender=0Asa=
ys this is not a problem. I think it is a problem.=0A<div>What do you sa=
y?&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Also, if it is an issue, where can we get a set of=
 flex hoses=0Athat have the correct ends for this application &amp; are=
 also the=0Acorrect length (I.E. Not too short)?</div>=0A<div>Gary Hodso=
n<br><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div=
>=0A</ynotink@msn.com></div></body></html>

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