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Re: [Healeys] Lower Stator Tube for Trafficator

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lower Stator Tube for Trafficator
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:32:12 -0800
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Stator tube is out!

The lower stator tube is out and as suspected the end that should engage
with the trafficator was damaged beyond repair. I have ordered a new part.

I wasn't able to remove the stator at the steering box end. The tube hit
the shroud and I didn't want to loosen the steering column. I cut a 6"
length of 3/8" redi rod and used it to push the tube towards the steering
wheel and was able to remove it that way.

The tip about using the 3/8" bolt to stop the fluid leaking out was a good
one.

Harold

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yup (if there's any left in the box).
>
>
> On 2/13/2023 8:40 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies and the information. I can confirm the olive is
> tight and the lower doesn't rotate but the trafficator can rotate freely
> with no resistance. It looks like the problem is inside the
> steering column. I will remove the trafficator and lower stator tube and
> report back.
>
> Do I need to be prepared for the steering box fluid to leak out when the
> lower stator is removed?
>
> Harold
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 3:20 AM Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> The short stator tube, connected to the control head, has three dimples
>> that ride in a slot in the long stator tube.  The short stator tube fits
>> over the long stator tube.  Looks to me that the slot was cut with a
>> slitting saw leaving a knife edge corners where the cracks originate.
>> I've made some long stator tubes, using an end mill to put a round end
>> to the slot as Bob suggests.
>>
>> Hank, the fishing line that you use - line used to catch fish or to fish
>> wires through walls (fish tape)?  If the former, how do you get the line
>> feed through the tube?  I would tie it to the harness and pull it
>> through when you remove the harness.  Or using some bailing wire to feed
>> it through.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob Haskell
>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>
>> On 2/12/23 20:39, Bob Spidell wrote:
>> > You have to pull the trafficator wiring harness up through the stator
>> > regardless to get the trafficator out and the wheel off. Once you've
>> > done that, I can't think of an easy way to grab the stator, so you're
>> > better off just pulling the stator out at the box (i.e. 'by the book').
>> >
>> > Two things cause the trafficator to rotate with the wheel: the stator
>> > isn't secured by the olive and nut at the box end, or one or both of
>> > the sections--long lower and short upper--are damaged somehow. They
>> > aren't technically connected, the short upper part slides inside the
>> > lower and has a dimple that fits in a slot in the lower. The slot is
>> > cut square and it often cracks at the end (it should be radiused IMO).
>> >
>> > When you get everything back together, presumably with a new stator,
>> > make sure there's a small gap--20 thou or so--between the trafficator
>> > and the hub so the hub doesn't drag the trafficator when you turn.
>> > Check first to see that it's not just a loose olive and nut; if so, it
>> > will likely leak quite a bit, but it's an easy fix.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > On 2/12/2023 2:49 PM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I have started to road test my car and discovered the trafficator
>> >> rotates with the steering wheel. The car has adjustable steering and
>> >> further investigation strongly indicates the upper and lower stator
>> >> tubes are not connecting inside the steering column.
>> >>
>> >> Question - Can the lower stator tube be removed through the steering
>> >> wheel end of the steering column?
>> >>
>> >> Any tips and suggestions on how to do this job are appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks... Harold
>> >>
>> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Stator tube is out!<div><br></div><div>The lower stator tu=
be is out and as suspected the end that should engage with the trafficator=
=C2=A0was damaged beyond repair. I have ordered a new part.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>I wasn&#39;t able to remove the stator at the steering=C2=A0box e=
nd. The tube hit the shroud=C2=A0and I didn&#39;t want to loosen the steeri=
ng column. I cut a 6&quot; length of 3/8&quot; redi rod and used it to push=
 the tube towards the steering wheel and was able to remove it that way.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>The tip about using the 3/8&quot; bolt to stop the f=
luid leaking out was a good one.</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mo=
n, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:33 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comc=
ast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    Yup (if there&#39;s any left in the box).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/13/2023 8:40 AM, Harold Manifold
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for all the replies=C2=A0and the information.=
 I
        can confirm the olive is tight and the lower doesn&#39;t rotate but
        the trafficator can rotate freely with no resistance. It looks
        like the problem is inside the steering=C2=A0column. I will remove
        the trafficator and lower stator tube and report back.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Do I need to be prepared for the steering box fluid to leak
          out when the lower stator is removed?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Harold</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 3:20
          AM Bob Haskell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The
          short stator tube, connected to the control head, has three
          dimples <br>
          that ride in a slot in the long stator tube.=C2=A0 The short stat=
or
          tube fits <br>
          over the long stator tube.=C2=A0 Looks to me that the slot was cu=
t
          with a <br>
          slitting saw leaving a knife edge corners where the cracks
          originate.=C2=A0 <br>
          I&#39;ve made some long stator tubes, using an end mill to put a
          round end <br>
          to the slot as Bob suggests.<br>
          <br>
          Hank, the fishing line that you use - line used to catch fish
          or to fish <br>
          wires through walls (fish tape)?=C2=A0 If the former, how do you
          get the line <br>
          feed through the tube?=C2=A0 I would tie it to the harness and pu=
ll
          it <br>
          through when you remove the harness.=C2=A0 Or using some bailing
          wire to feed <br>
          it through.<br>
          <br>
          Cheers,<br>
          <br>
          Bob Haskell<br>
          Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar<br>
          <br>
          On 2/12/23 20:39, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
          &gt; You have to pull the trafficator wiring harness up
          through the stator <br>
          &gt; regardless to get the trafficator out and the wheel off.
          Once you&#39;ve <br>
          &gt; done that, I can&#39;t think of an easy way to grab the
          stator, so you&#39;re <br>
          &gt; better off just pulling the stator out at the box (i.e.
          &#39;by the book&#39;).<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; Two things cause the trafficator to rotate with the
          wheel: the stator <br>
          &gt; isn&#39;t secured by the olive and nut at the box end, or on=
e
          or both of <br>
          &gt; the sections--long lower and short upper--are damaged
          somehow. They <br>
          &gt; aren&#39;t technically connected, the short upper part slide=
s
          inside the <br>
          &gt; lower and has a dimple that fits in a slot in the lower.
          The slot is <br>
          &gt; cut square and it often cracks at the end (it should be
          radiused IMO).<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; When you get everything back together, presumably with a
          new stator, <br>
          &gt; make sure there&#39;s a small gap--20 thou or so--between th=
e
          trafficator <br>
          &gt; and the hub so the hub doesn&#39;t drag the trafficator when
          you turn. <br>
          &gt; Check first to see that it&#39;s not just a loose olive and
          nut; if so, it <br>
          &gt; will likely leak quite a bit, but it&#39;s an easy fix.<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; Bob<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; On 2/12/2023 2:49 PM, Harold Manifold wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt; Hello,<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; I have started to road test my car and discovered the
          trafficator <br>
          &gt;&gt; rotates with the steering wheel. The car has
          adjustable=C2=A0steering and <br>
          &gt;&gt; further investigation strongly indicates the upper
          and lower stator <br>
          &gt;&gt; tubes are not connecting inside the steering column.<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; Question - Can the lower stator tube be removed
          through the steering <br>
          &gt;&gt; wheel end of the steering column?<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; Any tips and suggestions on how to do this job are
          appreciated.<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; Thanks... Harold<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;<br>
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