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Re: [Healeys] Front wheel bearing spacers. New blog post.

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Front wheel bearing spacers. New blog post.
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:28:27 -0800
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I thought there might be a difference, but I learn when I say something 
misinformed and get corrected (happens a lot; hence my initials ;). 
Presumably, the dye penetrant method doesn't involve electric fields?

bs


On 1/19/2023 7:43 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi thanks for your comment. If possible I would really appreciate it 
> if you would add it to the comments  on my blog post.
> https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-front-wheel-bearing-spacers/
> Interestingly my understanding of "Magnaflux" testing is entirely 
> different. The "magnaflux" system we used in the aircraft industry 
> subjected the ferrous part to a magnetic field and immersed it into a 
> bath of spray containing iron particles. The particles would gather at 
> the edges of any cracks.
> I was involved with a comparison test of "Magnaflux" vs penetrant dye 
> testing on Rolls Royce Dart engine parts and the general conclusion 
> was that the results achieved using "Magnaflux"were very much more 
> dependent on operator skill than penetrant dye although the penetrant 
> system took a lot longer.
>
> M
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 3:55 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>     Another good post, Michael. A couple things:
>
>     - To the best of my recollection--I haven't gotten in there in a
>     while--my BN2 has the spacers. I think it was one of the later
>     cars so maybe they were added at the end of the run? Nothing else
>     about the car makes me think any of the previous owners were
>     particularly diligent or careful with the car (though it was in
>     relatively good shape when we bought it).
>
>     - If you don't have facilities for using a penetrant dye--what us
>     Yankees call 'magnaflux'--the 'ring test' can sometimes suffice.
>     Suspend the stub axle, preferably with wire, and give it a sharp
>     rap with a hammer, wrench, etc. The axle should ring, like a
>     tuning fork, but if you get a dull thud you likely have a crack in
>     the axle. My dad took our stub axles up to BCS to have new
>     bushings installed and reamed, and Dad said Norman Nock was
>     impressed by Dad's knowledge of the ring test (Dad was an Old
>     School mechanic himself).
>
>     - I always assumed if a part wasn't absolutely necessary the BMC
>     bean counters would have it removed; maybe they realized keeping
>     the spacer, for the BN4s and later cars was cheaper than replacing
>     broken stub axles?
>
>     Bob
>
>
>     On 1/18/2023 8:00 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>>     https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-front-wheel-bearing-spacers/
>>
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    I thought there might be a difference, but I learn when I say
    something misinformed and get corrected (happens a lot; hence my
    initials ;). Presumably, the dye penetrant method doesn't involve
    electric fields?<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2023 7:43 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi thanks
          for your comment. If possible I would really appreciate it if
          you would add it to the comments  on my blog post.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><a
href="https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-front-wheel-bearing-spacers/";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-front-wheel-bearing-spacers/</a></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Interestingly
          my understanding of "Magnaflux" testing is entirely different.
          The "magnaflux" system we used in the aircraft industry
          subjected the ferrous part to a magnetic field and immersed it
          into a bath of spray containing iron particles. The particles
          would gather at the edges of any cracks. <br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I was
          involved with a comparison test of "Magnaflux" vs penetrant
          dye testing on Rolls Royce Dart engine parts and the general
          conclusion was that the results achieved using "Magnaflux"were
          very much more dependent on operator skill than penetrant dye
          although the penetrant system took a lot longer.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default"
          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 3:55
          PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;
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          <div> Another good post, Michael. A couple things:<br>
            <br>
            - To the best of my recollection--I haven't gotten in there
            in a while--my BN2 has the spacers. I think it was one of
            the later cars so maybe they were added at the end of the
            run? Nothing else about the car makes me think any of the
            previous owners were particularly diligent or careful with
            the car (though it was in relatively good shape when we
            bought it).<br>
            <br>
            - If you don't have facilities for using a penetrant
            dye--what us Yankees call 'magnaflux'--the 'ring test' can
            sometimes suffice. Suspend the stub axle, preferably with
            wire, and give it a sharp rap with a hammer, wrench, etc.
            The axle should ring, like a tuning fork, but if you get a
            dull thud you likely have a crack in the axle. My dad took
            our stub axles up to BCS to have new bushings installed and
            reamed, and Dad said Norman Nock was impressed by Dad's
            knowledge of the ring test (Dad was an Old School mechanic
            himself).<br>
            <br>
            - I always assumed if a part wasn't absolutely necessary the
            BMC bean counters would have it removed; maybe they realized
            keeping the spacer, for the BN4s and later cars was cheaper
            than replacing broken stub axles?<br>
            <br>
            Bob<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div>On 1/18/2023 8:00 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
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