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I agree with you completely Jim. I suspect that Josef my adjust his opinion
as he ages.
M
On Thu., Oct. 6, 2022, 3:14 p.m. Jim Ryan, <ryan@jimryan.com> wrote:
> Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just
> so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we
> should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get your
> advice on what age I'm endangering other people.
>
> That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this lis=
t.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years ol=
d
>> fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other
>> person was invoved and injured.
>>
>> Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees
>> or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it.
>>
>> For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure
>> ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to =
come
>> from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elde=
rly
>> people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they =
are
>> completely overextended by driving an old classic car.
>>
>> One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more
>> capable to drive.
>>
>> I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>> konigswinter/GERMANY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>>
>> Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200
>>
>> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>>
>> An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael--
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.
>>
>> I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road,
>> somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front
>> yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared t=
he
>> branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took of=
f
>> without much conversation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."
>>
>> Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on
>> the Targa there.
>>
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but
>> they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage
>> ditches.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if thi=
s
>> is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association memb=
ers
>> are on in Europe at this moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randy Hicks
>> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM
>> To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>>
>>
>>
>> Awful.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-r=
ally-austin-healey/
>>
>>
>>
>> Randy
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"></div>I agree with=C2=A0you completely =
Jim. I suspect that Josef my adjust his opinion as he ages.<div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D=
"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., Oct. 6, 2022, 3:14 p.=
m. Jim Ryan, <<a href=3D"mailto:ryan@jimryan.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">ryan@jimryan.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Well, THAT was harsh.=C2=A0 You might want t=
o forward that to his family just so they know how you feel about him.=C2=
=A0 When exactly is it you think=C2=A0 we should all stop driving?=C2=A0 Is=
it 75?=C2=A0 80?=C2=A0 I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what =
age I'm endangering=C2=A0other people.<div><br></div><div>That was easi=
ly the most insensitive=C2=A0posting I have ever seen on this list.</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"background-color:white">To be ho=
nest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old fart who =
brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other person was i=
nvoved and injured. <br><br>Its very common all over in central Europe to h=
ave these ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we =
love it. <br><br>For big money you can book in to take part in one of these=
leasure ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you ha=
ve to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mai=
nly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, e=
ven they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. <br><br=
>One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable=
to drive. <br><br>I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">Josef Eckert</div>
<div style=3D"background-color:white">konigswinter/GERMANY<br><br><br>=C2=
=A0 <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>-----Original-Nachricht----- <br>=
<br>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br><br=
>Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br><br>Von: "Michael Oritt" <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> <br><br>An: "Michael =
Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <br><br>=
=C2=A0 <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>Michael-- <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><=
br>Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with=
rocks.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br><br>I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hande=
r, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree i=
n a fellow's front yard.=C2=A0 As I remember it he stood there rather s=
tunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped=
into the car and took off without much conversation. <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><b=
r>Best--Michael Oritt <br><br><br>On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael S=
alter via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: =
<br><br>"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." =
<br><br>Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up=
on the Targa there. <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>M <br><br>On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022=
, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>Italian roads are amazing for driving through =
beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are surrou=
nded by open drainage ditches. <br><br><br>On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, R=
ichard Kahn via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
wrote: <br><br>I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was won=
dering if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Asso=
ciation members are on in Europe at this moment. <br><br>=C2=A0 <br><br>Fro=
m: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>=
; on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> <br>Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM <br>To: Healey Lis=
t <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Subject: [Healeys] =
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british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/" rel=3D"noreferrer n=
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