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Hello Mike,
I still suspect the master switch, or the white/black wire to it.
To check this, just take the white/black wire off the distributer and coil.=
=20
And instead make a temporary connection (wire) from coil to distributer.=20
And now make a test drive.
=20
Cheers,
=20
Josef Eckert
Konigswinter/GERMANY
=20
=20
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.
=20
Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue
considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=20
I should like to point out however that it is the immediate
vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me
confused.=20
This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.
I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a
result of filling the tank.
Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation
problem because the amount of engine power being used has no
effect.
Totally baffled.
Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.
=20
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <
Hi John -
=20
Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell
through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are
Correct Sir!"
=20
Cheers,
=20
Alan
=20
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com
Alan
=20
Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one
that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the
insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the
bottom of the case.
=20
On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <
Michael -
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to
manifest themself ...=20
* whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will
exclude anything related to fuel or the coil
* whether the car is under load or not - this typically will
exclude anything related to fuel
* whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will
exclude anything related to fuel
* somewhat intermittent but systematically under all
conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues
Given this I'd check (as a priority):
* Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
* primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil
(cycle the connections)
* motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
* loose wires in the dizzy
* loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug
Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
* replace rotor
* replace dizzy cap
I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because
this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe
sensitive to temp.
Best,
=20
Alan
=20
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <
re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from t=
he
distributor wire ..."
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF'
position it grounds the coil primary so no spark.
On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
Hi Michael -
=20
Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire
from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the
coil to the distributor.
=20
You might also want to try disconnecting the black and
white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like=
this. If that
wire is disconnected the car should run no problem. I
don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the dist=
ributor
wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect=
it from
underneath the master switch itself.
=20
Best,
=20
Alan
=20
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=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Hello Mike,<br /></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">I still suspect the=
master switch, or the white/black wire to it.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">To check this, just=
take the white/black wire off the distributer and coil. And instead make a=
temporary connection (wire) from coil to distributer. And now make a test =
drive.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Cheers,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef Eckert</span>=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Konigswinter/GERMAN=
Y</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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order-top: 1pt solid #e1e1e1; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;"><strong>From: =
</strong><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer">Michael Salter</a><br /><strong>Sent: </strong>Thursday, September 2=
9, 2022 8:10 AM<br /><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">Alan Seigrist</a><br /><strong>Cc: </s=
trong><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r">Healey list</a><br /><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [Healeys] Austin Heal=
ey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire =
issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all suggestions. <=
u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I should like to point out however that it is =
the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has=
me confused. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the problem appe=
ared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition problem coul=
d change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel st=
arvation problem because the amount of engine power being used has no effec=
t.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll report back.<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via =
Healeys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer no=
referrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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one; border-left: 1pt solid #cccccc; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left:=
4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry =
if it fell through bad interpretation! As Ed McMahon used to say, "Yo=
u Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">ah100tech@=
gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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one; border-left: 1pt solid #cccccc; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left:=
4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recover when coole=
d. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely I saw that th=
e insulating oil had run out through a very small crack in the bottom =
of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healey.n=
ut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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one; border-left: 1pt solid #cccccc; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left:=
4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael -<br /><br />Just as a follow up to my email=
since the symptoms seem to manifest themself ... <u></u><u=
></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">whether the car is warmed up or not - this typicall=
y will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">whether the car is under load or not - this typical=
ly will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically=
will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">somewhat intermittent but systematically under all =
conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">Battery Master (when these fail they will ground th=
e coil)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to co=
il (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><=
u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark p=
lug<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secondary):<u></u><u=
></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simp=
ly because this would either be very regular all the time, or maybe se=
nsitive to temp.<br /><br />Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">Alan<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">bspidell@=
comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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one; border-left: 1pt solid #cccccc; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left:=
4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">re: "... I don’=
t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire ..."<br /><br /=
>It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gr=
ounds the coil primary so no spark.<br /><br /><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<u></u><u>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections on the white =
wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the di=
stributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnecting the black a=
nd white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if it’s fa=
iling you’ll get weird symptoms like this. If that wire is disc=
onnected the car should run no problem. I don’t recall if that =
wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn’t you’ll =
have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself.<u></u><u></=
u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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