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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop labor
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Note economics isn't called "The Dismal Science" for no reason.

Research "Modern Monetary Theory" if you want a real head-scratcher.


On 4/7/2022 11:40 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
> 'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira.
>
> Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply shocks & 
> printing money.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Reason four
>     Profiteering
>     And yes it's happening
>
>     Ira Erbs
>     1959 AH 100-6
>     1967 MGB
>     Milwaukie, OR
>
>     On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         Usually inflation is caused by one of three things:
>
>          1. having restricted supply,
>          2. increased demand,
>          3. government printing lots of money.
>
>         Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so greed doesn't
>         really factor into it because you always have greed in good
>         economies and bad economies.  I won't get into the politics of
>         why, just a 2-second economics lesson.
>
>         Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who was
>         President Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor.  I got an A in her
>         class ð???.  If you can believe it I also had Janet Yellen,
>         Secretary of the Treasury in business school, reference point
>         #3 above ð???
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Alan
>
>         On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys
>         <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>             Greed has no borders
>
>             Ira Erbs
>             1959 AH 100-6
>             1967 MGB
>             Milwaukie, OR
>
>             On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys
>             <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                 My understanding is that todayâ??s inflation is a
>                 worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being political.
>
>
>                 Richard Mayor
>                 boyracer466@gmail.com
>
>
>>                 On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via
>>                 Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>                 Good call Alan. There seems to be some sensitivity on
>>                 those topics here...
>>                 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                 *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on
>>                 behalf of Alan Seigrist via Healeys
>>                 <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:04 AM
>>                 *To:* jomar healey <ah53@yahoo.com>
>>                 *Cc:* S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>;
>>                 healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>                 *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sticker stock- machine shop
>>                 labor
>>                 I guess I probably shouldn't make a political comment
>>                 about inflation.  ð???
>>
>>
>>                 On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:20 AM jomar healey via
>>                 Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>                     I had a 100 head done about a year ago in North
>>                     Jersey where prices tend to be higher and it came
>>                     to about $600
>>
>>                     Joe
>>
>>                     On Monday, April 4, 2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S and
>>                     T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                     It's probably been 10 yrs since I last rebuilt an
>>                     AH engine, so I might just be out of touch the
>>                     rising costs. Has anyone recently had machine
>>                     shop work done on a 100 engine and could you let
>>                     me know if what I paid seems reasonable? I've had
>>                     work done at this particular shop and consider
>>                     them the best around, so the quality of work
>>                     isn't questioned. Keep in mind I supplied all
>>                     parts (valves, springs, guides, cam bearings, 
>>                     freeze plugs, etc.). Also I delivered a
>>                     disassembled engine, and I'm assembling the engine.
>>
>>                     Clean and machine stock flywheel $140
>>
>>                     Head- cook, Magna Flux, replace guides, machine
>>                     seats/ guides, resurface,  and assembly $510
>>
>>                     Clean, Magna flux and resize rods $260
>>
>>                     Clean/ grind crank and machine slinger area for
>>                     rear seal kit $580
>>
>>                     Block- cook, deck, install one cylinder sleeve,
>>                     bore all 4, line bore mains, install cam
>>                     bearings, install freeze plugs, machine lip off
>>                     rear main cap for rear seal kit. $1,675
>>
>>                     I know this is a loaded question, and really just
>>                     curious if these seem a bit inflated. When I
>>                     Googled average costs, it seems high, but then
>>                     again,  it's not a Chevy.
>>                     TY, Shawn
>>
>>                     The Millers
>>
>>                     "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an
>>                     antique car is a test drive."
>>

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    Note economics isn't called "The Dismal Science" for no reason.<br>
    <br>
    Research "Modern Monetary Theory" if you want a real head-scratcher.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/2022 11:40 PM, Alan Seigrist via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAFBXTk+ToA936S+YZ56kR-M2KfaDmsCqbzii4AbVdmR6oRmfxA@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">'Profiteering' is ALWAYS happening Ira.  <br>
        <br>
        Economically speaking, inflation is caused by demand/supply
        shocks &amp; printing money.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 2:31 PM
          i erbs &lt;<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">Reason four
            <div dir="auto">Profiteering</div>
            <div dir="auto">And yes it's happening<br>
              <br>
              <div dir="auto">Ira Erbs<br>
                1959 AH 100-6<br>
                1967 MGB<br>
                Milwaukie, OR</div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:25
              PM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href="mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr">Usually inflation is caused by one of three
                things: <br>
                <ol>
                  <li>having restricted supply,</li>
                  <li>increased demand,</li>
                  <li>government printing lots of money.</li>
                </ol>
                <div>Coming out of COVID we have the trifecta... so
                  greed doesn't really factor into it because you always
                  have greed in good economies and bad economies.  I
                  won't get into the politics of why, just a 2-second
                  economics lesson.  <br>
                  <br>
                  Incidentally my Econ 1 professor was Laura Tyson, who
                  was President Clinton's Chief Economic Advisor.  I got
                  an A in her class ð???.  If you can believe it I also
                  had Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury in
                  business school, reference point #3 above ð???</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Cheers,</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Alan</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at
                  12:44 PM i erbs via Healeys &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
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                  <div dir="auto">Greed has no borders<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>Ira Erbs<br>
                      1959 AH 100-6<br>
                      1967 MGB<br>
                      Milwaukie, OR</div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7,
                      2022, 10:48 AM Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
                      0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                      <div>My understanding is that todayâ??s inflation is
                        a worldwide phenomenon. I hope this is not being
                        political.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>  <br>
                          <div>
                            Richard Mayor<br>
                            <a href="mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";
                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div>On Apr 4, 2022, at 8:37 PM, WILLIAM B
                                LAWRENCE via Healeys &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                  rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                wrote:</div>
                              <br>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div
                                    
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Good
                                    call Alan. There seems to be some
                                    sensitivity on those topics here...</div>
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id="gmail-m_-452361945880565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901913742464457m_-1977917248668674498divRplyFwdMsg"
                                    dir="ltr"><font
                                      style="font-size:11pt"
                                      face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
                                      Healeys &lt;<a
                                        
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                      on behalf of Alan Seigrist via
                                      Healeys &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 5,
                                      2022 3:04 AM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> jomar healey &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:ah53@yahoo.com";
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ah53@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Cc:</b> S and T Miller &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com";
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">stmiller96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;;
                                      <a
                                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
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                                        target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
                                      Sticker stock- machine shop labor</font>
                                    <div> </div>
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                                  <div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">I guess I probably
                                      shouldn't make a political comment
                                      about inflation.  ð???
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 5, 2022
                                        at 9:20 AM jomar healey via
                                        Healeys &lt;<a
                                          href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                          rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">I had a 100
                                              head done about a year ago
                                              in North Jersey where
                                              prices tend to be higher
                                              and it came to about $600</div>
                                            <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="ltr">Joe</div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                              <div>On Monday, April 4,
                                                2022, 08:06:14 PM EDT, S
                                                and T Miller via Healeys
                                                &lt;<a
                                                  
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                                  rel="noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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                                                <div
id="gmail-m_-452361945880565067m_5137958597540010869gmail-m_-8473901913742464457m_-1977917248668674498x_gmail-m_835940424409048426yiv1570368679">
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style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">It's
                                                      probably been 10
                                                      yrs since I last
                                                      rebuilt an AH
                                                      engine, so I might
                                                      just be out of
                                                      touch the rising
                                                      costs. Has anyone
                                                      recently had
                                                      machine shop work
                                                      done on a 100
                                                      engine and could
                                                      you let me know if
                                                      what I paid seems
                                                      reasonable? I've
                                                      had work done at
                                                      this particular
                                                      shop and consider
                                                      them the best
                                                      around, so the
                                                      quality of work
                                                      isn't questioned.
                                                      Keep in mind I
                                                      supplied all parts
                                                      (valves, springs,
                                                      guides, cam
                                                      bearings,  freeze
                                                      plugs, etc.). Also
                                                      I delivered a
                                                      disassembled
                                                      engine, and I'm
                                                      assembling the
                                                      engine. </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean
                                                      and machine stock
                                                      flywheel $140</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Head-
                                                      cook, Magna Flux,
                                                      replace guides,
                                                      machine seats/
                                                      guides,
                                                      resurface,  and
                                                      assembly $510</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean,
                                                      Magna flux and
                                                      resize rods $260</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Clean/
                                                      grind crank and
                                                      machine slinger
                                                      area for rear seal
                                                      kit $580</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">Block-
                                                      cook, deck,
                                                      install one
                                                      cylinder sleeve,
                                                      bore all 4, line
                                                      bore mains,
                                                      install cam
                                                      bearings, install
                                                      freeze plugs,
                                                      machine lip off
                                                      rear main cap for
                                                      rear seal kit.
                                                      $1,675</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">I
                                                      know this is a
                                                      loaded question, 
                                                      and really just
                                                      curious if these
                                                      seem a bit
                                                      inflated. When I
                                                      Googled average
                                                      costs, it seems
                                                      high, but then
                                                      again,  it's not a
                                                      Chevy. </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit">TY,
                                                      Shawn</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      
style="font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit"><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>The Millers<br>
                                                       <br>
                                                      "Always drive
                                                      them, but remember
                                                      each drive in an
                                                      antique car is a
                                                      test drive."<br>
                                                    </div>
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