Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical problem not solved with new starter. Gremlins?

[Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>]

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Nothing wrong with a rebuilt original starter.
Mike MacLean

On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 2:21 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Sounds to me like there is something in the ground circuit that is
> failing.  Perhaps nothing more than a corroded connection that you are
> partially cleaning up when removing the lead which then fails when the load
> is appklied.  Try a new heavy cable with clean fittings and go directly
> from battery negative to ground, bypassing the shutoff switch.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:11 PM Bob Begani via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Listeners:
>>
>>
>>
>> You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter which would go
>> zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead.  My two friends are
>> much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why.   Eventually I
>> discovered if you take off the battery ground and leave it off for a few
>> minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical system comes alive again. The
>> fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows.  Unfortunately, when you
>> engage the starter zap goes the starter. We took the starter off the car
>> and bench tested it. We tested the positive cable from the battery
>> solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I got a new starter from WOSP and installed it.  Same problem.  The noise
>> is always in the starter.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are stumped IDEAS??
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> BJ8 67. .
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<div dir=3D"auto">Nothing wrong with a rebuilt original starter.<div dir=3D=
"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 2:21 PM Michael Oritt via Hea=
leys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Sounds to me like there is=
 something in the ground circuit that is failing.=C2=A0 Perhaps nothing mor=
e than a corroded connection that you are partially cleaning up when removi=
ng the lead which then fails when the load is appklied.=C2=A0 Try a new hea=
vy cable with clean fittings and go directly from battery=C2=A0negative=C2=
=A0to ground, bypassing the shutoff switch.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:11 PM Bob =
Begani via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-=
serif">Listeners:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif">You may recall my comments about the High Torque starter whic=
h would go zap and cause the entire electrical system to go dead.=C2=A0 My =
two friends are much more knowledgeable than I and could not figure out why=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Eventually I discovered if you take off the battery ground an=
d leave it off for a few minutes, then reconnect, viola the electrical syst=
em comes alive again. The fuel pump hums, the lights go on, the horn blows.=
=C2=A0 Unfortunately, when you engage the starter zap goes the starter. We =
took the starter off the car and bench tested it. We tested the positive ca=
ble from the battery solenoid, the ground, all connections and so on. Same =
problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I got a new starter from WOSP a=
nd installed it.=C2=A0 Same problem.=C2=A0 The noise is always in the start=
er.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
We are stumped IDEAS??<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">BJ8 67. .<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div></div>__________________________________________=
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