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Re: [Healeys] Penrite or John Deere CHG.

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Penrite or John Deere CHG.
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:16:57 -0800
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To clarify, all grease guns--at least the half-dozen or so I have--take 
a cartridge with a plastic cap on one end and an aluminum 'pop-top' seal 
(or just foil) on the other. The pop-top/foil and plastic cap are 
removed and the cartridge full of grease is inserted into the gun 
pop-top end first, but not before the feeder spring is retracted and 
locked in place. Then, the end cap of the gun is screwed back on and the 
spring released, so that it can force grease to the outlet end, from 
which it is pumped out under pressure, with either a pistol or lever 
type piston pump. CHG, I noticed, does not come out of the gun in a 
steady stream when pumped, there seems to be air or something in the 
stream, which requires a bunch of fruitless pumping of the gun until 
another slug comes out.

For all of you thinking 'Well, Duh! Who didn't know that?!' I had to 
figure this out on my own and made some sizable messes in doing so, and 
still do sometimes--it's an inherently messy process. My concern now is 
have I lost some of the oily goodness in the CHG that actually does the 
lubricating*, and where can I find the specialty CHG dispenser to add to 
my collection of grease dispensers? And, to further prove I have way too 
much time on my hands, and insufficient energy to use it wisely, I knew 
this 'grease turns into an oil' miracle must have a scientific name with 
which you can impress your friends and make them think 'What a 
smart-ass,' so I found it:

'Thixotropic' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropy

Now, you can be the hit of the next cocktail party--assuming we ever 
have parties again--or, maybe, you can win a fortune on Jeopardy!

You're welcome.

Bob

* All greases are oil with a thickening agent; think lithium, 
molybdenum, etc. The cheap stuff usually uses finely-ground diatomaceous 
earth (aka 'dirt').



On 2/8/2022 1:49 AM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>
> Bob, that may be a good point. When I went to the agricultural place 
> for the grease, they suggested that I buy their grease gun. I bought 
> it for its flexible nozzle which is a blessing. Perhaps they sold it 
> so that it wouldnâ??t â??liquefy and leakâ??. Iâ??ve never thought about its 
> inner workings. It has a pistol-grip pump action so I suppose thatâ??s 
> the only pressure.
>
> Maybe the recipe is to buy the tubes of CHG gloop and use it with a 
> pistol-grip pump. I doubt John Deere actually manufacture the gun 
> although theyâ??ve branded it and jacked the price up accordingly.
>
> Itâ??s a decent thing, though on the large size, and I use it for pretty 
> well all greasing jobs.
>
> Simon
>
> >> It'll liquefy and leak in a spring-loaded grease gun however.
>
>
> On 2/7/2022 3:54 PM, Don via Healeys wrote:
>
>     Yes John Deere corn head grease.  I had a steering box that
>     wouldnâ??t hold much and I wasnâ??t about to pull the steering
>     column/box out . Iâ??ve done this before but it was on a total
>     rebuild. I filled the box up with this corn head grease , and so
>     far no big leaks . ð?¤?. Time will tell Iâ??m sure
>
>       Don
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>         On Feb 7, 2022, at 5:58 PM, i erbs via Healeys
>
>         
>
>         Heat it up first in hot water. You'll thank me later.
>
>         Ira Erbs
>         1959 AH 100-6
>         1967 MGB
>         Milwaukie, OR
>
>         On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 2:51 PM Bob Begani via Healeys
>         <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>             John Deere Cornhead Grease is what they had made for the
>             cornhead which is an articulated joint out at the end of
>             the combine which is like our steering box.  I used it 4
>             years ago and not a drop from the steering box so far.
>             Amazon sells it in a cartridge and in tubes.
>
>             Bob Begani
>
>             *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf
>             Of *Team.net
>             *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 2:52 PM
>             *To:* Ray Juncal <healeyray@yahoo.com>
>             *Cc:* List Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
>             *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Penrite
>
>             John Deere Cornhead Grease.
>

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    To clarify, all grease guns--at least the half-dozen or so I
    have--take a cartridge with a plastic cap on one end and an aluminum
    'pop-top' seal (or just foil) on the other. The pop-top/foil and
    plastic cap are removed and the cartridge full of grease is inserted
    into the gun pop-top end first, but not before the feeder spring is
    retracted and locked in place. Then, the end cap of the gun is
    screwed back on and the spring released, so that it can force grease
    to the outlet end, from which it is pumped out under pressure, with
    either a pistol or lever type piston pump. CHG, I noticed, does not
    come out of the gun in a steady stream when pumped, there seems to
    be air or something in the stream, which requires a bunch of
    fruitless pumping of the gun until another slug comes out.<br>
    <br>
    For all of you thinking 'Well, Duh! Who didn't know that?!' I had to
    figure this out on my own and made some sizable messes in doing so,
    and still do sometimes--it's an inherently messy process. My concern
    now is have I lost some of the oily goodness in the CHG that
    actually does the lubricating*, and where can I find the specialty
    CHG dispenser to add to my collection of grease dispensers? And, to
    further prove I have way too much time on my hands, and insufficient
    energy to use it wisely, I knew this 'grease turns into an oil'
    miracle must have a scientific name with which you can impress your
    friends and make them think 'What a smart-ass,' so I found it:<br>
    <br>
    'Thixotropic'   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropy";>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropy</a><br>
    <br>
    Now, you can be the hit of the next cocktail party--assuming we ever
    have parties again--or, maybe, you can win a fortune on Jeopardy!<br>
    <br>
    You're welcome.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    * All greases are oil with a thickening agent; think lithium,
    molybdenum, etc. The cheap stuff usually uses finely-ground
    diatomaceous earth (aka 'dirt').<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/2022 1:49 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bob,
            that may be a good point. When I went to the agricultural
            place for the grease, they suggested that I buy their grease
            gun. I bought it for its flexible nozzle which is a
            blessing. Perhaps they sold it so that it wouldnâ??t â??liquefy
            and leakâ??. Iâ??ve never thought about its inner workings. It
            has a pistol-grip pump action so I suppose thatâ??s the only
            pressure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Maybe
            the recipe is to buy the tubes of CHG gloop and use it with
            a pistol-grip pump. I doubt John Deere actually manufacture
            the gun although theyâ??ve branded it and jacked the price up
            accordingly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Itâ??s
            a decent thing, though on the large size, and I use it for
            pretty well all greasing jobs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">&gt;&gt; It'll
          liquefy and leak in a spring-loaded grease gun however.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 2/7/2022 3:54 PM, Don via Healeys
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Yes John Deere corn head grease.  I had a
            steering box that wouldnâ??t hold much and I wasnâ??t about to
            pull the steering column/box out . Iâ??ve done this before but
            it was on a total rebuild. I filled the box up with this
            corn head grease , and so far no big leaks . <span
              style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI 
Emoji&quot;,sans-serif">ð?¤?</span>.
            Time will tell Iâ??m sure  <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">         
                Don <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Feb
                  7, 2022, at 5:58 PM, i erbs via Healeys <a
                    href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                    moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Heat
                    it up first in hot water. You'll thank me 
later.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
                      1959 AH 100-6<br>
                      1967 MGB<br>
                      Milwaukie, OR<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 2:51 PM
                      Bob Begani via Healeys &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"
                            lang="EN-US">John Deere Cornhead Grease is
                            what they had made for the cornhead which is
                            an articulated joint out at the end of the
                            combine which is like our steering box.  I
                            used it 4 years ago and not a drop from the
                            steering box so far. Amazon sells it in a
                            cartridge and in tubes.</span><span
                            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"
                            lang="EN-US">Bob Begani</span><span
                            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                lang="EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 7, 2022
                                2:52 PM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> Ray Juncal &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:healeyray@yahoo.com";
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeyray@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b>Cc:</b> List Healey &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 
Penrite<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              lang="EN-US">John Deere Cornhead 
Grease.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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