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Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?
Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have
> always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,
> they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the head
> at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1
> did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bit
> louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound almost
> exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent
> and the engine runs very smooth.
> As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark,
> I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in
> the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran
> it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again
> nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after
> transferring the oil, and again, nothing.
> Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what to
> listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
> And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones
> available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have
> been in you possession for quite a while now, right?
> Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and
> you caught it in time.
> Thanks!
> Steven
>
> On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had
> initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
> After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
> Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the drain
> plug magnet.
> I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a
> set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
> I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but
> at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <
> airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in
>> the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000
>> miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out with
>> my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.
>> Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems
>> did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems?
>> When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problems.
>> They were a little off, but I expected a little.
>> What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I
>> switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to
>> build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've got M
>> mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So
>> far, so good.
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Steven Kingsbury
>> BN1
>>
>> On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine
>> with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
>> This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4
>> changes in 6K miles.
>> Very disappointing.
>> I'm considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods
>> and a new cam.
>> Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters
>> ... getting a little desperate here.
>> Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.
>>
>> M
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<div dir=3D"auto">Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all =
in the filter?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>1=
959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM=
Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div><div>Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. T=
hey have always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that=
I had, they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorq=
ued the head at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound li=
ke my old BN1 did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they see=
m even a bit louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they=
sound almost exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they se=
em pretty silent and the engine runs very smooth.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 m=
ile mark, I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a=
magnet in the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magn=
et and ran it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and ag=
ain nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after transf=
erring the oil, and again, nothing.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Sorry to he=
ar about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what to listen for and=
what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. And just to be=
clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones availab=
le through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have been in =
you possession for quite a while now, right?=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed=
and you caught it in time.=C2=A0</div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Steven</div><=
div><br>On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:=
michaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter=
@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappe=
ts which had initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.=
<div dir=3D"auto">After adjusting they were still audible and had previousl=
y been silent.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil ch=
anges there was "fir" in the drain plug magnet.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto">I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "=
M" cam and a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride l=
ifters manufactured but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., Aug. 4, 202=
1, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <<a href=3D"mailto:airtightproductions@i=
cloud.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">airtightproductions@icloud.=
com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>I just=
rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in the UK. T=
hese were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000 miles or so=
on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out with my distribut=
or, the car is running well and smooth.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Now I&#=
39;m wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems did you =
have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems? When I re=
torqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problems. They were=
a little off, but I expected a little.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0What sh=
ould I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I switched to VR=
1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to build up some tr=
ust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've got M mods on=
this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So far, so go=
od.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for your help,</div><div>Steve=
n Kingsbury</div><div>BN1</div><div><br>On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Micha=
el Salter via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br=
></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto">After only 600=
0 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine with a very low m=
ileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto=
">This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4 c=
hanges in 6K miles.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Very disappointing.=C2=A0<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">I'm=C2=A0 considering trying bucket type Buick l=
ifters with longer push rods and a new cam.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Does any=
one have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters ... gettin=
g a little desperate here.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Fortunately I caught this=
issue before it ruined the engine.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">M</div></div><div><span>_______________________________________=
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