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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle

To: "'Harold Manifold'" <manifold@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle
From: gradea1@charter.net
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 05:40:12 +0000 De+xgxSGWbR0Osipq9SwpLL3hFBtazSdaAwR8D8SJn4+ByqoSHgIweUfWNdZrRSFL1Zc4negEWJLBEjTmncN+vLFviq60B6IN6d5gJeKsunsEAwXOqDia3Oe IHom5iEx6Zy6C6Ysrhhw9Kk+yN9Nu//9uZDz+RTIAZU=
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I'm with the philosophy "set the toe and let 'er blow" The 1/16-1/8"=0At=
oe-in is most important for proper tire wear. The other two are=0Afactor=
y fixed and too dangerous to play with or maintain...even if=0AKilmartin=
 makes the parts. Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------=
From: "Harold Manifold" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell", "Neil Anderson"=0ACc: "Hea=
leys"=0ASent: Monday January 4 2021 6:58:27PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] B=
N2 Caster Angle=0A=0A Bob,   I happened to have my early Healey 100 / 30=
00 Workshop Manual=0Asitting by a scanner.   Harold =0A=0A--------------=
-----------=0AFROM: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] ON B=
EHALF OF Bob=0ASpidell=0ASENT: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:01 PM=0ATO: Ne=
il Anderson=0ACC: Healeys=0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle=0A=
=0A Nope. For once, I'm NOT confused. I've acquired an interest in=0Acha=
ssis geometry WRT to handling characteristics (and can't spend ALL=0Amy=
 time correcting people on the interwebs ;). I know Healey geometry=0Ais=
 usually fixed; but my BN2 has Kilmartin adjustable camber plates,=0Aand=
 I acquired a set of shock plate inserts for my BJ8. I believe I=0Acan r=
emove the ends of the shock plates, remove the captive nuts and=0Alength=
en and widen the holes enough to allow a couple degrees of=0Acamber adju=
stment and maybe a degree or two of caster adjustment. I=0Abought a 4-wh=
eel alignment kit to do the measuring.=0A=0A My BN2 is surprisingly hard=
 to turn, and only got more so when I=0Ainstalled a smaller diameter ste=
ering wheel. It has 2-2.5deg pos.=0Acaster; I think lessening that a lit=
tle might decrease steering effort=0A(which may be normal, but I've only=
 driven this one BN2). If it makes=0Athe car too 'squirrely' I can fiddl=
e with it until I get the handling=0AI like.=0A=0A Bob=0A=0AOn 1/4/2021=
 1:36 PM, Neil Anderson wrote:=0A   Bob, I think you mean camber angle.=
 Caster is the forward/rearward=0Aangle inclination of the swivel uprigh=
t, which is permanently set on a=0AHealey. Camber is the top inward or o=
utward angle tilt of the wheel=0Awhen viewed front front. =0A Not sure w=
hat the factory camber angle is, but what you stated is=0Aprobably close=
.  =0A Neil Anderson =0A On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:28 PM Bob Spidell  wrote=
:=0A  Listers,=0A=0A What's the recommended setting (my version of the s=
hop manual doesn't=0A specify one)? I think the BJ8 manual recommends 1-=
2deg pos.=0A=0A Bob=0A=0A

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<html><body>I'm with the philosophy "set the toe and let 'er blow" The 1=
/16-1/8" toe-in is most important for proper tire wear.&nbsp; The other=
 two are factory fixed and too dangerous to play with or maintain...even=
 if Kilmartin makes the parts. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signa=
ture"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Harol=
d Manifold" <manifold@telus.net><br>To: "Bob Spidell", "Neil Anderson"<b=
r>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Monday January 4 2021 6:58:27PM<br>Subject: Re:=
 [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle<br><br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><s=
pan class=3D"581065202-05012021"><font color=3D"#0000FF" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial">Bob,</font></span></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">&n=
bsp;</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"581065202-05=
012021"><font color=3D"#0000FF" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I=0Ahappened t=
o have my early Healey 100 / 3000 Workshop Manual sitting=0Aby a scanner=
.</font></span></div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">&nbsp;</div>=0A<=
div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span class=3D"581065202-05012021"><font=
 color=3D"#0000FF" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Harold</font></span></div>=
=0A<br><div lang=3D"en-us" class=3D"OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" al=
ign=3D"left">=0A<hr><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Healey=
s=0A[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of</b> Bob=0ASp=
idell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 04, 2021 2:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nei=
l Anderson<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BN2 Ca=
ster Angle<br></font><br></div>=0ANope. For once, I'm NOT confused. I've=
 acquired an interest in=0Achassis geometry WRT to handling characterist=
ics (and can't spend=0AALL my time correcting people on the interwebs ;)=
.&nbsp; I know=0AHealey geometry is usually fixed; but my BN2 has Kilmar=
tin=0Aadjustable camber plates, and I acquired a set of shock plate=0Ain=
serts for my BJ8. I believe I can remove the ends of the shock=0Aplates,=
 remove the captive nuts and lengthen and widen the holes=0Aenough to al=
low a couple degrees of camber adjustment and maybe a=0Adegree or two of=
 caster adjustment. I bought a 4-wheel alignment=0Akit to do the measuri=
ng.<br><br>=0AMy BN2 is surprisingly hard to turn, and only got more so=
 when I=0Ainstalled a smaller diameter steering wheel. It has 2-2.5deg p=
os.=0Acaster; I think lessening that a little might decrease steering=0A=
effort (which may be normal, but I've only driven this one BN2). If=0Ait=
 makes the car too 'squirrely' I can fiddle with it until I get=0Athe ha=
ndling I like.<br><br>=0ABob<br><br><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/=
4/2021 1:36 PM, Neil Anderson=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div>=
=0A<div>Bob,&nbsp;=0A<div>I think you mean camber angle.&nbsp; Caster is=
 the=0Aforward/rearward angle inclination of the swivel upright, which i=
s=0Apermanently set on a Healey.&nbsp; Camber is the top inward or=0Aout=
ward angle tilt of the wheel when viewed front front.</div>=0A<div><br><=
/div>=0A<div>Not sure what the factory camber angle is, but what you sta=
ted=0Ais probably close.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0ANeil Ande=
rson</div>=0A<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div class=3D"gmail_=
attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:28 PM Bob=0ASpidell &lt;<a>bspi=
dell@comcast.net</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px=
 0px 0px .8ex;">=0AListers,<br><br>=0AWhat's the recommended setting (my=
 version of the shop manual=0Adoesn't<br>=0Aspecify one)? I think the BJ=
8 manual recommends 1-2deg pos.<br><br>=0ABob<br></blockquote>=0A</div>=
=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</blockquote>=0A<br></manifold@telus.net></body></h=
tml>

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