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To: jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Toyota 5-speed Shifter bushing
From: richard mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:40:33 -0700
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First, the free play and clutch pedal travel on my race car with Toyota 5
speed won't help you.  I have a Tilton 7-1/4" two plate racing clutch with
an annular hydraulic throw out bearing.

Secondly, the Nissan transmission swap in the other Healey was relatively
easy because it is still connected to the Nissan motor.  Please look again
carefully at the photo of my engine.  It's out of a Datsun 280Z .

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 6:26 PM jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No big deal ...BUT would you be willing/able to measure both free play and
> total clutch pedal travel on your wee beastie?
>
> and do you have more info on the Nissan transmission swap?
>
> Thanks, Jim
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 5:47:47 PM PDT, richard mayor <
> boyracer466@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah.  I sometimes forget which Japanese transmission I'm thinking about.
> This Healey of mine has a Nissan 5 speed.
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:58 PM jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Couple o' things ...Nissan parts department is VERY unlikely to have any
> parts for a Toyota
>
>
> Assuming that this is related to your earlier post on the same subject
> ..My only experience does involve a Nissan--1993 pickup manual trans..the
> manual sez Clutch Pedal Height (amount of throw > how far the pedal travels
> from top to bottom is 9,29 to 9.69 inches ...(227-327 mm)...the amount of
> "free play" is listed as .039 to .059 inches (1-1.5 mm) essentially zero
> free play...One would further assume that Smitty Conversion folks would
> have some sort of spec as regards to throw and free play...still sounds to
> me like the clutch is dragging/not being fully disengaged...means input
> shaft still rotating ...
>
> as a for instance, when engine off, car sitting can you select any/all
> gears without binding or excessive force? ...
>
> try this...start engine, depress clutch ..put ear on gear shift ...Noise?
> gear rotation sounds?  Whining? ...all would indicate input shaft rotating
> ...
>
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> On Saturday, Octob(er 24, 2020, 7:46:17 PM PDT, i erbs via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> they do break apart and drop bits into the gearbox. replace it now....
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:58 PM richard mayor via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> The bushing on the lower end of the shifter is plastic. I have worn out a
> couple of them. It is the same bushing on both the W58 and W59
> transmissions. The Nissan parts department should know exactly what you
> need and have one (or more) on the shelf.  You don't need a part number.
>
> Richard
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:43 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I have a Smitty's five-speed conversion in my 100 which has about 60K
> miles on it.  I believe, but am not certain it is the W58 version.
>
> It has recently become difficult to engage any gear (1 to 5 and R) from
> neutral.  The clutch is engaging/disengaging properly and the transmission
> is full of Redline MT90.  The amount of effort to get into any of the gears
> does not change at speed or whether the car is hot or cold.
>
> I am suspecting/hoping there is a bushing at the base of the shift lever
> that has become worn and in fact a dose of WD40 into the top of the tower
> made shifting a bit easier.
>
> I don't want to show up at the Toyota parts counter only to be turned away
> for lack of a part number and am hoping someone might have it.
>
> TIA--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>First, the free play and clutch pedal travel on my ra=
ce car with Toyota 5 speed won&#39;t help you.=C2=A0 I have a Tilton 7-1/4&=
quot; two plate racing clutch with an annular hydraulic throw out bearing.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Secondly, the Nissan transmission swap in the othe=
r Healey was relatively easy because it is still connected to the Nissan mo=
tor.=C2=A0 Please look again carefully at the photo of my engine.=C2=A0 It&=
#39;s out of a Datsun 280Z .<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 6:26 PM jim &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ab7vf@yahoo.com";>ab7vf@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></d=
iv><div>No big deal ...BUT would you be willing/able to measure both free p=
lay and total clutch pedal travel on your wee beastie?</div><div><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">and do you have more info on the Nissan transmission swap?=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Jim<br></div><div=
><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayahoo_quoted=
_3807819128">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 5:47:47 PM PDT, richard ma=
yor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer=
466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayiv77=
77877132"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah.=C2=A0 I sometimes forget which Japane=
se transmission I&#39;m thinking about.=C2=A0 This Healey of mine has a Nis=
san 5 speed.<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"gmail-m_=
1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayiv7777877132yqt07134"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:58 PM jim &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:a=
b7vf@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">ab7vf@yahoo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><=
div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Couple o&#39; things ...Nissan parts department is=
 VERY unlikely to have any parts for a Toyota <br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Assuming that this is related to your earlier post on=
 the same subject ..My only experience does involve a Nissan--1993 pickup m=
anual trans..the manual sez Clutch Pedal Height (amount of throw &gt; how f=
ar the pedal travels from top to bottom is 9,29 to 9.69 inches ...(227-327 =
mm)...the amount of &quot;free play&quot; is listed as .039 to .059 inches =
(1-1.5 mm) essentially zero free play...One would further assume that Smitt=
y Conversion folks would have some sort of spec as regards to throw and fre=
e play...still sounds to me like the clutch is dragging/not being fully dis=
engaged...means input shaft still rotating ...</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as a for instance, when engine off, car=
 sitting can you select any/all gears without binding or excessive force? .=
..</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">try this...start eng=
ine, depress clutch ..put ear on gear shift ...Noise? gear rotation sounds?=
=C2=A0 Whining? ...all would indicate input shaft rotating ...<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayiv777787713=
2gmail-m_-316987721168265699ydp8eba5d5byahoo_quoted_4119064904">
            <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Saturday, Octob(er 24, 2020, 7:46:17 PM PDT, i erbs =
via Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayiv77=
77877132gmail-m_-316987721168265699ydp8eba5d5byiv5259005325"><div><div>they=
 do break apart and drop bits into the gearbox. replace it now....</div><br=
 clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335ydp12ca181ayiv77=
77877132gmail-m_-316987721168265699ydp8eba5d5byiv5259005325yqtfd41795"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:58 PM richard mayor via Healeys &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D"gmail-m_1422531553313173335y=
dp12ca181ayiv7777877132gmail-m_-316987721168265699ydp8eba5d5byiv5259005325y=
qtfd79541"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Michael,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div>The bushing on the lower end of the shifter is plastic. I have worn =
out a couple of them. It is the same bushing on both the W58 and W59 transm=
issions. The Nissan parts department should know exactly what you need and =
have one (or more) on the shelf.=C2=A0 You don&#39;t need a part number. <b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Richard<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct =
24, 2020 at 12:43 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I have a Sm=
itty&#39;s five-speed=C2=A0conversion in my 100 which has about 60K miles o=
n it.=C2=A0 I believe, but am not certain it is the=C2=A0W58 version.</div>=
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"=
color:rgb(51,51,255)">It has recently become difficult to engage any gear (=
1 to 5 and R) from neutral.=C2=A0 The clutch is engaging/disengaging proper=
ly and the transmission is full of Redline MT90.=C2=A0 The amount of effort=
 to get into any of the gears does not change at speed or whether the car i=
s hot or cold.</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I am suspecting/hoping there is a=
 bushing at the base of the shift lever that has become worn and in fact a =
dose of WD40 into the top=C2=A0of the tower made shifting a bit easier.</di=
v><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I don&#39;t want to show up at the Toyota parts c=
ounter only to be turned away for lack of a part number and am hoping someo=
ne might have it.</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">TIA--Michael Oritt</div><div s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"color:=
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