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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pump
From: Max Byers via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 19:43:44 -0400
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Fred, the BJ7/BJ8 parts manual shows that a pump with a square body was =
used from Phase 1 to chassis number 28224 in Phase 2.  After that, the =
pump had a cylindrical body.  Your car should have the late pump.

I installed a backup fuel pump in my BJ8 to prepare for the cross-county =
trip to Lake Tahoe in 2002, using a generic Autozone electric pump as =
the backup.  I have no experience with the double-ended pump.

=20

During my post-Conclave tour last September, I broke off from the tour =
group to motor into Montana alone.  My backup pump (I typically drive =
outbound on the SU and home on the backup) failed just as I got into =
Montana.  Once I realized why the car suddenly failed to respond to the =
accelerator, I switched to the SU and kept going.  I found an identical =
backup pump at an Autozone in Minot, ND and had it installed in about 20 =
minutes.  Installing a backup generic pump in series with the SU is =
pretty simple.    It requires cutting one of the fuel hard lines, but I =
had already done that anyway to put an in-line filter in it under the =
right rear seat.  The switch is under the dash.  I have had to use the =
switch a few times, and it is a comfort to know the option of another =
pump is there.

=20

Cheers!

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred =
Wescoe
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:13 PM
To: healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Fuel pump

=20

Listers,

=20

I was out for a long drive in the mountains this afternoon and on an =
uphill grade, the car lost power and as I pulled over on a pull off, the =
engine died.  I sat in the car for a couple of minutes trying to restart =
it.  I waited until traffic was past me and turned the key but did not =
hear the ticking of the fuel pump.  I waited several minutes, tried =
again but no luck.

=20

I called AAA and they picked me and the car up for the ride home.  At =
home, off the flatbed, still no ticking.  So, I am thinking the fuel =
pump is dead.

=20

Looking at the Moss site, they list an early and a late BJ8 pump.  The =
Moss tech couldn't tell me which I am.  My car number is 29009.  Am I an =
early or late pump?  Also, if I switch to the double ended pump, do both =
ends work at the same time or is one end a backup for the other end?  If =
one end failed would the other end provide fuel in the normal manner and =
save me?

=20

Should I simply go with whichever single pump is for my car and then =
install a backup pump?=20

=20

Just as an important aside, AAA said covid regulations prohibited me =
from riding in the tow truck cab with the driver.  I was somewhat amazed =
at this but AAA offered to transfer me to the nearest car rental place =
as a service.  I made my call but my ride didn't arrive before the truck =
driver (she was in the middle of a haircut so you know where that got =
me).  The driver was very nice about the whole thing and did allow me in =
the cab with him (I wore my mask).

=20

I will start investigating the source of the pump problem tomorrow.

=20

Thanks for all input on this one,

=20

Fred=20

=20

66 BJ8 (new or late)


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fred, the BJ7/BJ8 parts manual shows that a pump with a =
square
body was used from Phase 1 to chassis number 28224 in Phase 2.=C2=A0 =
After that, the
pump had a cylindrical body.=C2=A0 Your car should have the late =
pump.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I installed a backup fuel pump in my BJ8 to prepare for =
the
cross-county trip to Lake Tahoe in 2002, using a generic Autozone =
electric pump
as the backup.=C2=A0 I have no experience with the double-ended =
pump.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>During my post-Conclave tour last September, I broke off =
from
the tour group to motor into Montana alone.=C2=A0 My backup pump (I =
typically drive
outbound on the SU and home on the backup) failed just as I got into =
Montana.=C2=A0
Once I realized why the car suddenly failed to respond to the =
accelerator, I
switched to the SU and kept going.=C2=A0 I found an identical backup =
pump at an
Autozone in Minot, ND and had it installed in about 20 minutes.=C2=A0 =
Installing a
backup generic pump in series with the SU is pretty simple.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0It requires
cutting one of the fuel hard lines, but I had already done that anyway =
to put
an in-line filter in it under the right rear seat.=C2=A0 The switch is =
under the
dash.=C2=A0 I have had to use the switch a few times, and it is a =
comfort to know
the option of another pump is there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred =
Wescoe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fuel pump<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Listers,<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I was out for a long drive in the mountains this =
afternoon
and on an uphill grade, the car lost power and as I pulled over on a =
pull off,
the engine died.&nbsp; I sat in the car for a couple of minutes =
trying&nbsp;to
restart it.&nbsp; I waited until traffic was past me and turned the key =
but did
not hear the ticking of the fuel pump.&nbsp; I waited =
several&nbsp;minutes,
tried again but no luck.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I called AAA and they picked me and the car up for =
the ride
home.&nbsp; At home, off the flatbed, still no ticking.&nbsp; So, I am =
thinking
the fuel pump&nbsp;is dead.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Looking at the Moss site, they list an =
early&nbsp;and a
late&nbsp;BJ8 pump.&nbsp; The Moss tech couldn't tell me which I =
am.&nbsp; My
car number is 29009.&nbsp; Am I an early or late pump?&nbsp; Also, if I =
switch
to the double&nbsp;ended pump, do both ends work at the same time or is =
one end
a backup for the other end?&nbsp; If one end failed would the other end =
provide
fuel in the normal manner and save me?<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Should I simply go with whichever single pump is =
for my car
and&nbsp;then install a backup pump?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Just as an important aside, AAA said covid =
regulations
prohibited me from riding in the tow truck cab with the driver.&nbsp; I =
was
somewhat amazed at this but AAA offered to transfer me to the nearest =
car
rental place as a service.&nbsp; I made my call but my ride didn't =
arrive
before the truck driver (she was in the middle&nbsp;of a haircut so you =
know
where that&nbsp;got me).&nbsp; The driver was very nice about the whole =
thing
and did allow me in the cab with him (I wore my mask).<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I will start investigating the source of the pump =
problem
tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for all input on this one,<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Fred&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>66 BJ8 (new or late)<o:p></o:p></p>

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