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$1.26/quart?Gary Hodson
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From: Warren Dietz <flyhihealey@gmail.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Sat, May 2, 2020 9:02 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
Amazon -$76.11 (?) for 3 5gal=C2=A0 VR 1 20/50.
On Sat, May 2, 2020, 9:33 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was=
$7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best=
price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.=C2=A0Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; st=
ill don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from before ref=
used to ship to me.=C2=A0 The Valvoline saga has some strange twists, a few=
years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the shelves;' I neve=
r got an explanation there, either.=C2=A0 I haven't seen it on any parts ho=
use shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for free @ less than =
$4/qt I'll be happy.
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Bob
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On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
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Hi,=C2=A0 Thanks all.=C2=A0 As is usual there is a lot of good discours=
e and experience shared by the list. =C2=A0What triggered my question on oi=
l and oil additives was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image=
that did not display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. =C2=A0For =
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the =
climate, etc. =C2=A0However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would fi=
nd another oil. =C2=A0I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell havi=
ng to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer =
cleared some California rule changes. =C2=A0I wondered it this happened to =
Red Line. =C2=A0 So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a ra=
pid response sent one to our Healey group. =C2=A0The Healey group was much =
faster to respond. =C2=A0While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a=
Red Line response did come. =C2=A0The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil=
10W40 (SKU 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's=
flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm pho=
sphorus.
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As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottl=
e is enough to add to a conventional oil.=C2=A0 It also has bit of sulfur, =
16.6 grams.=C2=A0 I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result=
in too much.=C2=A0 I am just not inclined to experiment. =C2=A0 The 3000=
=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tro=
pical heat.=C2=A0 However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Gree=
n Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights depe=
nding on the manufacturer.=C2=A0 The aspect that modern oils are a bit diff=
erent than those available when the book came out adds a bit more uncertain=
ty.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am confident using the 10W40.=C2=A0 I used 10W50 in my =
Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in free=
zing weather.=C2=A0 There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that=
led me to Red Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.=C2=A0 The oil pressure is proper, so I=
don=E2=80=99t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil. =C2=A0 Many thank=
s to the folks who responded.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bill =20
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From: Warren Dietz <flyhihealey@gmail.com><br>
To: warthodson@aol.com<br>
Cc: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Healey List <healeys@autox=
.team.net><br>
Sent: Sat, May 2, 2020 9:02 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<br>
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<div>Amazon -$76.11 (?) for 3 5gal VR 1 20/50.</div>
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3 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">The best price I could find for=
Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was $7.03/quart & it was shipp=
ing from "Zoro", who ever that is. The next best price was $9.11/quart ship=
ping from Speedway. </div>
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@auto=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<br clear=
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Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1
20W-50; still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I
bought from before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has
some strange twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to
pull it off the shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either.&nbs=
p;
I haven't seen it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as
Wallymart will ship for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br clear=
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Bob<br clear=3D"none">
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lack;">Hi, </span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;">Thanks
all.<span> </span>As is
usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience
shared by the list. <span> </span>What
triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that
did not display the usual statement that it contains
ZDDP. <span> </span>For
decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil
pressure, suites the climate, etc. <span> </span>How=
ever, if Red
Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil.
<span> </span>I also
recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to
find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed
that it no longer cleared some California rule
changes. <span> </span>I
wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">&nbs=
p;</span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;">So,
I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a
rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span> =
</span>The Healey group
was much faster to respond. <span> </span>While most
business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line
response did come. <span> </span>The
assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404)
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin
Healey's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and
more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">As t=
o their break in additive, their Web site
indicates that a half bottle is enough to add to a
conventional oil.<span> </span>It
also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span> </span>I =
have to
wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result in too
much.<span> </span>I am
just not inclined to experiment.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">&nbs=
p;</span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;">The
3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 we=
ight oil,
even for tropical heat.<span> </span>However, the =
=E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the
Green Book) has a much more expansive table that
promotes a lot of weights depending on the
manufacturer.<span> </span>The
aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those
available when the book came out adds a bit more
uncertainty.<span> </span></span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;"> </span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;">I
am confident using the 10W40.<span> </span>I used 1=
0W50 in
my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled engine and was
REAL hard to start in freezing weather.<span> </spa=
n>There were also
a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40.<span> </span>The
oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t see an upside =
for
me to use a heavier oil.</span></div>
=20
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;"> </span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:=
black;">Many
thanks to the folks who responded.<span> </span></s=
pan></div>
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w Roman', serif;"> </span></div>
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