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'Interesting,' to say the least. Tap water is electrically conductive
due to its dissolved salts (ions); distilled or deionized water has its
salts--hence its ions--removed so is non-conductive. Ethylene glycol,
being an organic compound is not, to my knowledge, conductive. The main
reason for using distilled water is to avoid scale buildup from the
dissolved salts (sometimes called 'boiler scale').
We covered aluminium alloys today in welding class. There are many
types of alloys, some of which may not be suitable for radiators (some
alloys cannot be welded, and can only be mechanically attached; e.g.
riveted).
bs
On 4/8/2019 10:35 AM, i erbs wrote:
> that is an interesting take on the issue.
> Thanks
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> _______ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â _______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
> (_________________________)
> Â Â Â Â Â BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
> 1967 MGB MG
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:18 AM Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com
>
> Back to the matter of using Distilled Water. I discussed this
> comment with my German/American friend who was installing a
> aluminum radiator in his Lagonda Drop Head Coup. He has owned
> various European Vehicles with aluminum radiators, and classic
> cars with aluminum radiators. He cannot understand the need for
> distilled water if you are using antifreeze which includes
> anti-corrosion additives or using such additive separately.Â
> Furthermore, the biggest problem with alloy radiators is the
> matter of a good grounded engine. His experience the failure of
> the alloy radiator is a poorly grounded engine which causes the
> electric current to run to ground via the water in coolant system
>  hence destroy the aluminum being dissimilar metal.  So check the
> soundness of the ground.
>
> Bob Begani
>
> BJ8 67
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:51 PM
> *To:* David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush
>
> " If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use Distilled
> water"
>
> Those are definitely the words of someone who "has suffered the
> consequences" ...
>
> M
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM David Nock BCS
>
> If you are installing a alloy radiator be sure and use
> Distilled water.
>
> The water flows thru the radiator top to bottom. It flows thru
> the heater from the lower hose thru the heater returning to
> the head.
>
> Water will not flow backwards thru the heater valve.
>
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> 209-948-8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
> <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>
>
>
> *Sent:*Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:10 AM
>
>
> *Subject:*[Healeys] Radiator flush
>
> Hello all,
>
> Preparing to install my alum radiator. Thought I would flush
> the cooling system.
>
> Which diretion direction does water flow? From block though
> Shut off vavle into heater core, or through pipe and back into
> block through the shut off valve?
>
> Is my valve in open ir closed position? Heater controls not
> reinstalled yet. Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but want to
> confirm. Removed thermostat to help water flush ststem easier.
> Im going to add extra hose and splice in a water hose bib.
> That way I can remove it and put system back in place.
>
> Im off this week, but the rain gods are laughing at me. So I'm
> just getting everything ready for the sweet spot of having
> time and sunshine so I can back the car out of the garage and
> flush the system. I plan to drain the anti freeze and fill
> with flush chemicals and water when I'm ready to flush. Bought
> new anti freeze for my new radiator.
>
> Driving season is fast approaching.
>
> Happy roads and saftey fast
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
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<p>'Interesting,' to say the least. Tap water is electrically
conductive due to its dissolved salts (ions); distilled or
deionized water has its salts--hence its ions--removed so is
non-conductive. Ethylene glycol, being an organic compound is
not, to my knowledge, conductive. The main reason for using
distilled water is to avoid scale buildup from the dissolved salts
(sometimes called 'boiler scale'). <br>
</p>
<p>We covered aluminium alloys today in welding class. There are
many types of alloys, some of which may not be suitable for
radiators (some alloys cannot be welded, and can only be
mechanically attached; e.g. riveted).</p>
<p>bs<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2019 10:35 AM, i erbs wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">that is an interesting take on the issue.
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<div>Portland,OR</div>
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(______ \____1959 BN4____/
_______)</span><br
style="font-family:'Times
New Roman',serif">
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<div>Â Â Â Â Â BT7 engine and
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<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica
Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an
animal with a thousand
adjustments. Mario
Andretti</span><br>
</div>
<div>Please excuse random auto
corrects and misspelled
words</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:18 AM
Robert Begani <<a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Back
to the matter of using Distilled Water. I discussed
this comment with my German/American friend who was
installing a aluminum radiator in his Lagonda Drop
Head Coup. He has owned various European Vehicles
with aluminum radiators, and classic cars with
aluminum radiators. He cannot understand the need for
distilled water if you are using antifreeze which
includes anti-corrosion additives or using such
additive separately. Furthermore, the biggest problem
with alloy radiators is the matter of a good grounded
engine. His experience the failure of the alloy
radiator is a poorly grounded engine which causes the
electric current to run to ground via the water in
coolant system  hence destroy the aluminum being
dissimilar metal.  So check the soundness of the
ground.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bob
Begani</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8
67</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Nock BCS <<a
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>;
i erbs <<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator flush</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">" If you are installing a alloy radiator
be sure and use Distilled water"</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">Those are definitely the words of
someone who "has suffered the consequences" ...</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
MS"">M</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM
David Nock BCS <<a
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">If
you are installing a alloy radiator be
sure and use Distilled water. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">The
water flows thru the radiator top to
bottom. It flows thru the heater from the
lower hose thru the heater returning to
the head. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">Water
will not flow backwards thru the heater
valve.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Century,serif;color:black">David
Nock<br>
British Car Specialists<br>
209-948-8767<br>
<a
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">Â </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> <a
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title="eyera3000@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span
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Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:10
AM</span></p>
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[Healeys] Radiator flush</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Â </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hello
all, </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Preparing
to install my alum radiator. Thought I
would flush the cooling system.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Which
diretion direction does water flow?
From block though <br>
Shut off vavle into heater core, or
through pipe and back into block
through the shut off valve?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Is
my valve in open ir closed position?
Heater controls not reinstalled yet.
Unit get hot so Ill asume open, but
want to confirm. Removed thermostat to
help water flush ststem easier. Im
going to add extra hose and splice in
a water hose bib. That way I can
remove it and put system back in
place.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Im
off this week, but the rain gods are
laughing at me. So I'm just getting
everything ready for the sweet spot of
having time and sunshine so I can back
the car out of the garage and flush
the system. I plan to drain the anti
freeze and fill with flush chemicals
and water when I'm ready to flush.
Bought new anti freeze for my new
radiator.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Driving
season is fast approaching.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Happy
roads and saftey fast</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Ira
Erbs<br>
Portland, OR<br>
typos and artifacts are the fault of
my phone</span></p>
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