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Hi Ed
Indeed, oil pressure on your car (still think of it as your car!) is great a=
s you indicate.=20
Bob England
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:01 PM, E.A. Driver <edriver@sasktel.net> wrote:
>=20
> Good afternoon
> As with Bruce and Bob at rebuild of a BJ8 engine I added DWR hcpump in 20=
00, although I sold the car in 2016, I assume the current owner will verif=
y that oil pressure during driving still ranges from 55 to 60 psi and at id=
le 20-25psi. As Michael has stated if the correct bearing clearances were m=
et during rebuild there should be no issues.
> Cheers
> Ed
>=20
> E.A. Driver
> Web master Saskatchewan British Car Club
> Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
> Canada
>=20
>=20
>> On 30/10/2018 9:52 AM, Bruce Steele wrote:
>> I echo Bob=E2=80=99s comments. I=E2=80=99ve had the DWR high capacity pu=
mp for years.
>> =20
>> Bruce Steele
>> Brea, CA
>> 1960 BN7
>> =20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sp=
idell
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:17 AM
>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] oil pump
>> =20
>> I'll offer what I know/have heard*. I have the 'high capacity'=
type in my BJ8, which is what the DWR techs/sales people recommended for a r=
oad car. Older 6-cyl cars had a rotor type pump. They (the rotor type) are=
supposed to be more efficient--i.e. they pump more oil--at lower RPMs. At s=
ome point it was discovered, probably from service bay repairs, that this ty=
pe of pump put an excessive shear load on the bevel gears on the cam that dr=
ive the pump, causing them to wear out. Later cars started getting the gear=
type pump, which is less efficient at lower RPMs but puts less of a load on=
the cam, and is probably less expensive to manufacture as well (esp. if the=
gears are the sintered iron variety). I think the bevel gears on the cams w=
ere re-engineered, IIRC they got an additional tooth to spread the load.
>>=20
>> The Welch HC pump is the rotor type. I did a full engine rebuild and ins=
talled the DWR HC pump; I didn't notice any pressure change worth mentioning=
--I 'gained' 15 PSI at idle when I had my gauge overhauled--but the 'high ca=
pacity' I believe refers to volume rather than pressure (which, of course, i=
s mostly dictated by engine speed). The 'standard type' pump is a gear typ=
e, hence it's more appropriate for high-RPM race engines as pump flow is pro=
portional to RPM, and at 6K RPM or more you'll get plenty of oil with less l=
oad from the gear type.
>>=20
>> I'm not positive, but if you look at the photos closely, you can see the '=
gallery plug' on the top of the case. I suppose it allows inspection of the=
innards of the pump without having to break the case. I believe it's threa=
ded so not likely to pop out. If you're getting a new pump you'll likely ne=
ed a new drive shaft and, surprisingly, DWR sells it cheaper than our (US) v=
endors sell it at (I think they might import the DWR shaft).
>>=20
>> * apply appropriate grains of salt
>>=20
>> Bob
>>=20
>> On 10/30/2018 5:12 AM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Has anyone got the Denis Welch oil pump ENG672M? See:-
>> https://www.bighealey.co.uk/performance-parts/austin-healey/engines/3000-=
bottom-end?page=3D3
>> Their text:- =E2=80=9CHeat treated castings for longer life and removable=
gallery plugs to be sure it is clean are advantages of both types of oil pu=
mps we offer. We recommend the high capacity for all road engines using a st=
andard type crank up to 6000 rpm and the standard pump for race engines, ste=
el cranks or anything over 6000 rpm. Both are precision machined and assembl=
ed in-house to control the highest quality.
>> - ENG672 is the standard type.
>> - ENG672M is the high capacity pump.=E2=80=9D
>> What are =E2=80=9Cremovable gallery plugs=E2=80=9D?
>>=20
>> Is it just me or is the above a bit counter-intuitive? =E2=80=9CHigh capa=
city=E2=80=9D for road cars and =E2=80=9Cstandard=E2=80=9D for race engines?=
Surely the highest capacity is needed where the engine is working hardest i=
e racing?
>>=20
>> And don=E2=80=99t I remember that, with the standard BMC pumps, the older=
type is reckoned to be better than the newer type? Is this something simila=
r to Denis Welch=E2=80=99s two pumps?
>>=20
>> Anyhow, if anyone=E2=80=99s got one=E2=80=A6..what=E2=80=99s it like? Did=
the oil pressure improve at all?
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m guessing that most people will have fitted one as part of a b=
ig rebuild thus they won=E2=80=99t have straightforward =E2=80=9Cbefore and a=
fter=E2=80=9D comparisons. I=E2=80=99m thinking of fitting mine to my engine=
as part of a small winter project and hope I can squeeze a few more psi int=
o the system.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Ed<div><br></div><div>Indeed, oil pressu=
re on your car (still think of it as your car!) is great as you indicate.&nb=
sp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Bob England</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:01 PM, E.A. Driver <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:edriver@sasktel.net">edriver@sasktel.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Good afternoon<br>
As with Bruce and Bob at rebuild of a BJ8 engine I added DWR
hcpump in 2000, although I sold the car in 2016, I assume the
current owner will verify that oil pressure during driving=
still
ranges from 55 to 60 psi and at idle 20-25psi. As Michael has
stated if the correct bearing clearances were met during rebuild
there should be no issues.<br>
Cheers<br>
Ed<br>
<br>
E.A. Driver<br>
Web master Saskatchewan British Car Club<br>
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan<br>
Canada<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30/10/2018 9:52 AM, Bruce Steele wrote:<br>
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MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I echo Bob=E2=80=99s
comments. I=E2=80=99ve had the DWR high capacity pump for y=
ears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Trebuchet
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Trebuchet
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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quot;Trebuchet
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> Healeys
[<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Beha=
lf Of
</b>Bob Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] oil pump<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>I'll offer what I know/have heard*. I have the 'high
capacity' type in my BJ8, which is what the DWR techs/sales
people recommended for a road car. Older 6-cyl cars had a
rotor type pump. They (the rotor type) are supposed to be
more efficient--i.e. they pump more oil--at lower RPMs. At
some point it was discovered, probably from service bay
repairs, that this type of pump put an excessive shear load on
the bevel gears on the cam that drive the pump, causing them
to wear out. Later cars started getting the gear type pump,
which is less efficient at lower RPMs but puts less of a load
on the cam, and is probably less expensive to manufacture as
well (esp. if the gears are the sintered iron variety). I
think the bevel gears on the cams were re-engineered, IIRC
they got an additional tooth to spread the load.<span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>The Welch HC pump is the rotor type. I did a full engine
rebuild and installed the DWR HC pump; I didn't notice any
pressure change worth mentioning--I 'gained' 15 PSI at idle
when I had my gauge overhauled--but the 'high capacity' I
believe refers to volume rather than pressure (which, of
course, is mostly dictated by engine speed). The 'stan=
dard
type' pump is a gear type, hence it's more appropriate for
high-RPM race engines as pump flow is proportional to RPM, and
at 6K RPM or more you'll get plenty of oil with less load from
the gear type.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm not positive, but if you look at the photos closely, you
can see the 'gallery plug' on the top of the case. I suppose=
it allows inspection of the innards of the pump without having
to break the case. I believe it's threaded so not likely to
pop out. If you're getting a new pump you'll likely need a
new drive shaft and, surprisingly, DWR sells it cheaper than
our (US) vendors sell it at (I think they might import the DWR
shaft).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">* apply
appropriate grains of salt<br>
<br>
Bob<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/30/2018 5:12 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:si=
mon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alex=
arevel.plus.com</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone got the Denis Welch oil pump
ENG672M? See:-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.bighealey.co.uk/perf=
ormance-parts/austin-healey/engines/3000-bottom-end?page=3D3" moz-do-not-sen=
d=3D"true">https://www.bighealey.co.uk/performance-parts/austin-healey/engin=
es/3000-bottom-end?page=3D3</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<h2 style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bott=
om:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:20.25pt">Their
text:- =E2=80=9C<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial",sans-serif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Heat
treated castings for longer life and removable gallery
plugs to be sure it is clean are advantages of both types
of oil pumps we offer. We recommend the high capacity for
all road engines using a standard type crank up to 6000
rpm and the standard pump for race engines, steel cranks
or anything over 6000 rpm. Both are precision machined and
assembled in-house to control the highest quality.<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">-
ENG672 is the standard type.</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-langu=
age:EN-GB"><br>
- ENG672M is the high capacity pump.=E2=80=9D</span><o:p></o:p=
></h2>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.75pt;line-height:=
14.4pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">What
are =E2=80=9Cremovable gallery plugs=E2=80=9D?</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.75pt;line-height:=
14.4pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Is
it just me or is the above a bit counter-intuitive? =E2=80=9CH=
igh
capacity=E2=80=9D for road cars and =E2=80=9Cstandard=E2=80=9D=
for race engines?
Surely the highest capacity is needed where the engine is
working hardest ie racing? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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14.4pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">And
don=E2=80=99t I remember that, with the standard BMC pumps, th=
e
older type is reckoned to be better than the newer type?
Is this something similar to Denis Welch=E2=80=99s two pumps?<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p>
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rif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Anyhow,
if anyone=E2=80=99s got one=E2=80=A6..what=E2=80=99s it like? D=
id the oil pressure
improve at all?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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14.4pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:#555555;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">I=E2=80=99m
guessing that most people will have fitted one as part of
a big rebuild thus they won=E2=80=99t have straightforward =E2=
=80=9Cbefore
and after=E2=80=9D comparisons. I=E2=80=99m thinking of fittin=
g mine to my
engine as part of a small winter project and hope I can
squeeze a few more psi into the system. </span><o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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