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My car constantly overheated until I replaced the modern thermostat with the=
sleeved one that was in the car when I bought it. Runs 180 - 190 now.
> On Sep 10, 2018, at 3:44 PM, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:
>=20
> Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in an effort to "c=
ool down" a Healey is useless. A thermostat responds only to the temperatur=
e of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to increase coolant flow, a=
nd once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of the loop and can't open=
further to cool more. I am on the NC coast where winters are mild. I once=
tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one that someone gave me. My BJ8 r=
an so cold that winter that I actually had to block part of the radiator to r=
aise it to anywhere near normal. Up there in the NC mountains, that would b=
e even more of a problem for you.
> I use a 187 F (86 C) New Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 1=
572320) that I was able to score from lister Kees Oudesluijs. I installed i=
t along with an upgraded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can't r=
eally say how much improvement the thermostat alone did; but since the modif=
ication my car runs consistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the NC c=
oast, except when in stop-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a b=
it above. In winter, it runs at 160 - 170. I can see the sleeve operate as=
the car warms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and 190 until coo=
lant temperature stabilizes. That can take up to 50 miles.
> A friend placed an order later with Kees for several of the 190 F sleeved t=
hermostats. I got one of those as a spare. Don't know if he has any left, o=
r can get more. As far as I know, the only sleeved thermostats available fr=
om the usual suspects are 160s and I wouldn't waste my money on them.
> I just Googled the AC part number and came up with this source:
> https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h
> Unfortunately, it does not post to the USA (but on the bright side, it off=
ers free shipping!). Maybe you could work out a deal with a UK lister to bu=
y one for you and ship it to you. =C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04
> =20
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> Havelock, NC=20
> =20
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred We=
scoe
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 8:38 PM
> To: healeys
> Subject: [Healeys] Thermostats
> =20
> Listers,
> =20
> I have researched what I can of the archives and other sources and am stil=
l puzzled. I cannot find any real answers and direction on the question of w=
hich thermostat I should use in my 66 BJ8. Some answers indicate a sleeved t=
hermostat and others say no sleeve. Some say a short sleeve and others say o=
nly the long sleeve works. Some answers indicate using a 160 degree thermos=
tat while others propose 180 degrees and even 190 degrees. Some even say th=
e Moss sleeved thermostat does not work.
> =20
> I am in North Carolina and drive the car most of the year. Right now the c=
ar has a non sleeved 190 degree thermostat. The car starts and needs to war=
m up, at idle, to almost full temp before it runs with no problems. Otherwi=
se it spits, coughs and has no power. The car runs at about 190 degres exce=
pt when I drive the mountains and of course stop and go traffic.
> =20
> What is the consensus of thoughts as we approach colder weather? And what=
are the sources and manufacturer for a good thermostat?
> =20
> Thanks for the help,
> =20
> Fred
> 66BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>My car constantly overheate=
d until I replaced the modern thermostat with the sleeved one that was in th=
e car when I bought it. Runs 180 - 190 now.</div><div><br>On Sep 10, 2=
018, at 3:44 PM, BJ8Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>sbyers@e=
c.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta ht=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS&quo=
t;;color:#002060">Fred, I personally believe a 160-deg. F thermostat used in=
an effort to "cool down" a Healey is useless. A thermostat responds o=
nly to the temperature of the coolant flowing through it by opening up to in=
crease coolant flow, and once it is open all the way at 160+, it is out of t=
he loop and can't open further to cool more. I am on the NC coast wher=
e winters are mild. I once tried a 160 (non-sleeved) because I had one=
that someone gave me. My BJ8 ran so cold that winter that I actually h=
ad to block part of the radiator to raise it to anywhere near normal. U=
p there in the NC mountains, that would be even more of a problem for you.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">I use a 187 F (86 C) New=
Old Stock AC sleeved thermostat (AC part number 1572320) that I was able to=
score from lister Kees Oudesluijs. I installed it along with an upgra=
ded core in the radiator at the same time, so I can't really say how much im=
provement the thermostat alone did; but since the modification my car runs c=
onsistently at 170 - 180 in the hot summers of the NC coast, except when in s=
top-and-go traffic when it might make it to 190 or a bit above. In win=
ter, it runs at 160 - 170. I can see the sleeve operate as the car war=
ms up because the gauge will cycle between 160 and 190 until coolant tempera=
ture stabilizes. That can take up to 50 miles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic=
Sans MS";color:#002060">A friend placed an order later with Kees for s=
everal of the 190 F sleeved thermostats. I got one of those as a spare=
. Don't know if he has any left, or can get more. As far as I kn=
ow, the only sleeved thermostats available from the usual suspects are 160s a=
nd I wouldn't waste my money on them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";=
color:#002060">I just Googled the AC part number and came up with this sourc=
e:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><a href=3D"https:=
//tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h">https://tinyurl.com/y9c6n53h</a><o:p></o:p></span></=
b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">Unfortunately, it does not post to the=
USA (but on the bright side, it offers free shipping!). Maybe you cou=
ld work out a deal with a UK lister to buy one for you and ship it to you. &=
nbsp;=C2=A319.99 =3D $26.04 </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS&=
quot;;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002=
060">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sa=
ns MS";color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060">AHCA D=
elegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sa=
ns MS";color:#002060">Havelock, NC </span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"><o=
:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p><=
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.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:hea=
leys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred Wescoe<br><b>Sent:=
</b> Sunday, September 09, 2018 8:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:=
</b> [Healeys] Thermostats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Listers,<o:p></o:p></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">I have researched what I can of the archives and other sources and am st=
ill puzzled. I cannot find any real answers and direction on the quest=
ion of which thermostat I should use in my 66 BJ8. Some answers indica=
te a sleeved thermostat and others say no sleeve. Some say a short sle=
eve and others say only the long sleeve works. Some answers indicate u=
sing a 160 degree thermostat while others propose 180 degrees and even 190 d=
egrees. Some even say the Moss sleeved thermostat does not work.<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am in North Carolina and drive the car most of the y=
ear. Right now the car has a non sleeved 190 degree thermostat. T=
he car starts and needs to warm up, at idle, to almost full temp before it r=
uns with no problems. Otherwise it spits, coughs and has no power.&nbs=
p; The car runs at about 190 degres except when I drive the mountains and of=
course stop and go traffic.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the consensu=
s of thoughts as we approach colder weather? And what are the sources a=
nd manufacturer for a good thermostat?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for=
the help,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fred<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">66BJ8<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blo=
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