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I also have one of those key rings and to be honest I have always
thought that it was some kind of a fraud been made from an original
Austin-Healey key ring.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 12-9-2016 om 9:32 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn:
>
> Hello
>
> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in
> Warwick I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It
> looked like the normal keyring that is still being produced today with
> the Union Jack on the top of the words ?Donald Healey Motor CoLtd?.
> Some little time later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the
> top is Jensen-Healey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge.
> Yes it is hyphenated.
>
> In the 1974 book ?The Jensen-Healey Stories? by Peter Browning and
> John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains
>
> Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Chris Dimmock
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM
> *To:* Michael Oritt
> *Cc:* Austin Healey
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
>
> This is interesting trivia!
>
> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's)
> with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite
> owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc
> handbooks all have the hyphen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of
> the Workshop manuals....
>
> I just think it's a BMC consistency control issue.......
>
> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most
> recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British
> Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both
> variants as registered trademarks at various times.
>
> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin /
> BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't
> matter.
>
> So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??
>
> ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com
>
> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I
> did not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts
> attached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this
> same question since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I
> often tend to forget what seemed important just a few minutes earlier.
>
> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of
> important it is a curious occurrence. I can understand how badges
> got used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was
> an established brand and probably protected under UK and/or
> worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would
> have intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by
> the omission of a dash.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell
>
> Bob,
>
> Mk II
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>
> On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>
> Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:
>
> Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over
> period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:
>
>
> The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without
> the hyphen. There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for
> the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify
> if there was a change point in the middle of the models. Previous
> discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the
> hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
> *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
> *To:* Gary R. Brierton
> *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
>
> Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a
> question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed
> to have been a definitive answer:
>
> How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges
> become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also have one of those key rings and
to be honest I have always thought that it was some kind of a
fraud been made from an original Austin-Healey key ring.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 12-9-2016 om 9:32 schreef Patrick & Caroline Quinn:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hello</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Way back in 1975 when I visited the
Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key
ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the
normal keyring that is still being produced today with the
Union Jack on the top of the words ?Donald Healey Motor
CoLtd?. Some little time later I realised that instead of
Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey in the same script
as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In the 1974 book ?The Jensen-Healey
Stories? by Peter Browning and John Blunsden it is also
hyphenated.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Patrick Quinn</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Blue Mountains</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Australia</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Healeys
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of
</b>Chris Dimmock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Oritt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne
front badge</span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is interesting trivia!</p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite
(certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet
badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks,
special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all
have the hyphen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of the
Workshop manuals....</p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">I just think it's a BMC consistency
control issue.......</p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">I also had a very quick look at some
trademark databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and
"Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage
Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants
as registered trademarks at various times. </p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us
than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both
variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter. </p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated
or not?? </p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">;-)</p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris</p>
</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>When I replied just a few
minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the
full string of messages and I see fromold posts
attached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been
asking this same question since 2001--which is pretty
interesting given that I often tend to forget what
seemed important just a few minutes earlier.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In any case though I know this
issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a
curious occurrence. I can understand how badges got
used out of sequence, but since the name
"Austin'Healey" was an established brand and probably
protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark
laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have
intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit
only by the omission of a dash.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best--Michael Oritt</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob
Haskell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";
target="_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bob,<br>
<br>
Mk II<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php";
target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>
<br>
On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Knowing Jensen, they could have used
either badge in the change-over<br>
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was
at hand.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has
it without<br>
the hyphen. There is only one part number in the BMC
parts list for<br>
the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data
would identify<br>
if there was a change point in the middle of the
models. Previous<br>
discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge
without the<br>
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
<br>
Havelock, NC<br>
<br>
*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";
target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>]<br>
*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
*Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
badge<br>
<br>
Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to
put out a<br>
question--one that I have asked before and never
received what seemed<br>
to have been a definitive answer:<br>
<br>
How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the
earlier badges<br>
become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for
later cars?<br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
<br>
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