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To: "i erbs" <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Idle dies
From: "Earl Kagna" <kags@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:30:29 -0700
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Hi Ira =E2=80=93 fun, isn=E2=80=99t it!

Under the circumstances, check everything in the distributor =E2=80=93 =
carbon centre button, make sure that the spring is allowing the button =
to ride firmly on the rotor.  Make sure that the rotor is not too close =
to the centre post on the cap =E2=80=93 ie; riding too high and lightly =
riding on the bakelite.  Try another rotor =E2=80=93 a known good one.  =
Check that there is no momentary grounding situation in the wiring both =
inside and outside of the cap.  A couple of remote possibilities =
=E2=80=93 an intermittently faulty condenser or coil (or coil =
connections).  Could even be the ignition switch, or the battery shut =
off switch.

You may still have a fuel problem, but you=E2=80=99ve got to fix the =
ignition problem in order to get there.

It is somewhat normal for these cars to lose idle quality in hot =
weather.  You could have fuel percolating in a carb, float levels =
slightly off, a slightly leaking float needle as Mr. Salter says, air =
leaks =E2=80=93 any number of things.  With HD8=E2=80=99s, the idle is =
set on the idle mixture bypass screw =E2=80=93 the throttle discs have =
to be fully closed at idle =E2=80=93 too fast an idle setting can mess =
things up.  Lots of little things can be not quite right, and the engine =
will run just fine.  By the time you get it all perfect, it will be time =
for another restoration!

Like I said =E2=80=93 always fun getting it all good after a full resto.

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: i erbs=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 7:14 PM
To: Alan Seigrist=20
Cc: Ahealey help=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Idle dies

new development=20
car looses all power, bucks, backfires, catches and drive ok for a bit, =
then big backfires and bucking, then it dies. almost like a loss of =
power. it could be an intermittent power loss. Distributor cap looks =
like . explosions. NOS cap, rotor, points and condenser . Distributor =
was removed cleaned and re greased.



Ira Erbs=20
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> =
wrote:

  Ira - with HD8s you can get leaking at the slow idle screw, which will =
cause you to lose idle when the car gets hot.  Try putting a couple =
drops of oil around the threads of the slow idle screw and see if that =
stops the problem.  If so, you have to take the slow idle screw out and =
replace and oil the O ring.=20

  Also, the Teflon bushes can come out a bit if installed incorrectly, =
something else to check.

  Alan


  On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:

    Good point, I have HD8s, but the concept should be the same=20

    Mr. Ira Erbs
    Portland,OR
    1959 Austin Healey 100-6
    please forgive odd words and auto corrects as   my phone cannot =
understand my misspellings=20

    On Jun 7,=20



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<DIV>Hi Ira =E2=80=93 fun, isn=E2=80=99t it!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Under the circumstances, check everything in the distributor =
=E2=80=93 carbon=20
centre button, make sure that the spring is allowing the button to ride =
firmly=20
on the rotor.&nbsp; Make sure that the rotor is not too close to the =
centre post=20
on the cap =E2=80=93 ie; riding too high and lightly riding on the =
bakelite.&nbsp; Try=20
another rotor =E2=80=93 a known good one.&nbsp; Check that there is no =
momentary=20
grounding situation in the wiring both inside and outside of the =
cap.&nbsp; A=20
couple of remote possibilities =E2=80=93 an intermittently faulty =
condenser or coil (or=20
coil connections).&nbsp; Could even be the ignition switch, or the =
battery shut=20
off switch.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You may still have a fuel problem, but you=E2=80=99ve got to fix =
the ignition=20
problem in order to get there.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It is somewhat normal for these cars to lose idle quality in hot=20
weather.&nbsp; You could have fuel percolating in a carb, float levels =
slightly=20
off, a slightly leaking float needle as Mr. Salter says, air leaks =
=E2=80=93 any number=20
of things.&nbsp; With HD8=E2=80=99s, the idle is set on the idle mixture =
bypass screw =E2=80=93=20
the throttle discs have to be fully closed at idle =E2=80=93 too fast an =
idle setting=20
can mess things up.&nbsp; Lots of little things can be not quite right, =
and the=20
engine will run just fine.&nbsp; By the time you get it all perfect, it =
will be=20
time for another restoration!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Like I said =E2=80=93 always fun getting it all good after a full =
resto.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#141100">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Deyera3000@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";>i erbs</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 08, 2016 7:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dhealey.nut@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";>Alan Seigrist</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Ahealey help</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Idle dies</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>new development=20
<DIV>car looses all power, bucks, backfires, catches and drive ok for a =
bit,=20
then big backfires and bucking, then it dies. almost like a loss of =
power. it=20
could be an intermittent power loss. Distributor cap looks like . =
explosions.=20
NOS cap, rotor, points and condenser . Distributor was removed cleaned =
and re=20
greased.<BR>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Ira Erbs=20
<DIV>Portland,OR</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BT7 engine =
and disk=20
brakes</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled=20
words</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Alan Seigrist =
<SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>healey.nut@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc =
1px solid">Ira=20
  - with HD8s you can get leaking at the slow idle screw, which will =
cause you=20
  to lose idle when the car gets hot.&nbsp; Try putting a couple drops =
of oil=20
  around the threads of the slow idle screw and see if that stops the=20
  problem.&nbsp; If so, you have to take the slow idle screw out and =
replace and=20
  oil the O ring.=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Also, the Teflon bushes can come out a bit if installed =
incorrectly,=20
  something else to check.</DIV><SPAN class=3DHOEnZb><FONT =
color=3D#888888>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></SPAN>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3DHOEnZb><FONT=20
  color=3D#888888>Alan</FONT></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><BR>
  <DIV><BR>On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, i erbs &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; =
target=3D_blank>eyera3000@gmail.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>
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#ccc 1px solid">
    <P dir=3Dltr>Good point, I have HD8s, but the concept should be the =
same </P>
    <P dir=3Dltr>Mr. Ira Erbs<BR>Portland,OR<BR>1959 Austin Healey =
100-6<BR>please=20
    forgive odd words and auto corrects as&nbsp;&nbsp; my phone cannot=20
    understand my misspellings </P>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Jun 7,=20
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