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Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:50:07 +0200
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A battery when properly maintained should last about 10 years. Top it up 
regularly using distilled water only and use a trickle charger when not 
in use.
It is important you get the right type suitable for starting engines. I 
often see batteries in cars that are actually intended for caravans i.e. 
not starting batteries, they cannot handle the currents needed for 
starting very well..
Kees Oudesluijs


Warren schreef op 17-4-2015 om 13:10:
> Bob wrote; "I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another 
> if I can help it."
>
>
> Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has 
> been positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers
> and the Healey.
>
>  The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep 
> a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving 
> season when parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I 
> don't know?  I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for 
> more than a week. Newer cars drain fast.
>
>  I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this spring. Don't 
> want to push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for 
> Enclave.
> http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/
>
> WD
> 67 BJ8
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700
> From: bspidell@comcast.net
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance
>
> An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:
>
> When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries. We had 
> intermittent starting problems; connections at the solenoid and 
> elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery 
> cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was 
> worried our soldered connections were bad.  We often charged the 
> batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the starting system.
>
> Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's 
> lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both).  He 
> replaced the two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl spins 
> over better than my BJ8, and the 4 has better compression.  The car 
> may sit for a couple months but always has charge for a start.  Bottom 
> line: still could be the battery.
>
> Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart 
> batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008 
> Mustang.  That's right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two both 
> went almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go in 3 as 
> well.  These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ 
> battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this car is my 
> daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my BJ8; it was 
> still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I was getting 
> ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the USA.
>
> I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another if I can 
> help it.
>
> Bob
>
> On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John Spaur wrote:
>
>     The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and
>     engages the flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench.
>     When this first occurred it was because the armature shaft could
>     move too far forward which allowed the pinon gear to move too far
>     down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between the armature and
>     the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the movement of the
>     armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel thrust washer
>     in that place.
>
>
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A battery when properly maintained
      should last about 10 years. Top it up regularly using distilled
      water only and use a trickle charger when not in use.<br>
      It is important you get the right type suitable for starting
      engines. I often see batteries in cars that are actually intended
      for caravans i.e. not starting batteries, they cannot handle the
      currents needed for starting very well..<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Warren schreef op 17-4-2015 om 13:10:<br>
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        <div>    <span>Bob wrote; "</span><span>I thought Interstate was
            a good brand; I won't buy another if I can help it."</span></div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
        </div>
        Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast
        brand has been positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers
        <div>and the Healey. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div> The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still
          going. I keep a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and
          also during driving season when parked. Whether that has to do
          with  longevity or luck I don't know?  I also trickle charge
          the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week. Newer cars
          drain fast.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div> I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this
          spring. Don't want to push my luck since I will be driving to
          Gettysburg in July for Enclave.             </div>
        <div>                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/";
            
target="_blank">http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>WD</div>
        <div>67 BJ8</div>
        <div>
          <div>
            <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700<br>
            From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a><br>
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            Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance<br>
            <br>
            An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:<br>
            <br>
            When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries. 
            We had intermittent starting problems; connections at the
            solenoid and elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had
            fabricated our own battery cables--from double-ought
            stranded welding cable!--but my dad was worried our soldered
            connections were bad.  We often charged the batteries to max
            charge on a charger before testing the starting system.<br>
            <br>
            Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries
            (he's lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with
            acid, or both).  He replaced the two batteries and, lo and
            behold,  the big 4-cyl spins over better than my BJ8, and
            the 4 has better compression.  The car may sit for a couple
            months but always has charge for a start.  Bottom line:
            still could be the battery.<br>
            <br>
            Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf
            cart batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've
            had in my 2008 Mustang.  That's right, 3 batteries in 7
            years; the first two both went almost exactly at 3 years, I
            expect the third to go in 3 as well.  These Interstates are
            hecho en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but would
            have had to wait a day to get it and this car is my daily
            driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my BJ8; it was
            still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I
            was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in
            the USA.<br>
            <br>
            I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another
            if I can help it.<br>
            <br>
            Bob<br>
            <br>
            <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John
              Spaur wrote:<br>
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                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>The pinion gear binds on
                    the worm gear when is spins down and engages the
                    flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench.
                    When this first occurred it was because the armature
                    shaft could move too far forward which allowed the
                    pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put
                    a thrust washer between the armature and the end
                    plate (inside the motor) to limit the movement of
                    the armature shaft. There was already a very worn
                    steel thrust washer in that place.</span></p>
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