| i think jackson is referring to Behr's Rust Remover and Concrete Etcher.  it 
works great on taking rust stains off concrete driveways and i use it to take 
rust off bolts and nuts.   it turns them all black but the rust is gone after a 
few days of soaking in the stuff.  a gallon is about 15 dollars at home depot.  
 hjim
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