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Fw: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity

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Subject: Fw: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity
From: "Dallas Congleton" <dcong996@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:50:48 -0500
 It is really surprising to me that a car can be judged "Concours Gold"
 without a Heritage Certificate and compliance with its original production
 details, including paint colors, compliance with production dates of
 details, etc.

 What then is concours?

  Dallas Congleton
 1967 BJ8
 1953 MGTD


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich C" <richchrysler@quickclic.net>
 > To: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
 > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:18 PM
 > Subject: Re: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity
 >
 >
 > I quite agree with you on that point Steve.
 > If I were team captain or chief judge with such a car being judged, I
 > would
> have to go for the standard deduction as stated in the scoring sheets
> and
> guidelines. This would apply for an early Phase 2 with the larger single
> lamps front and back, etc., etc. In other words, without getting into
 > checking actual serial numbers, the BJ8 that could be visually
 determined
> at
 > a casual glance as not being a late enough car to have MGB should have a
 > standard paint deduction. Ironically the MGB car that all the BJ fuss is
 > about is exactly such a car!
 > Hang on a minute while I slip on my flame suit!<grin>
 > Rich Chrysler
 >
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> > > To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:56 PM
> > > Subject: Paint scheme and originality, was: RE: Value Insanity
> > >
> > >
> > > > The car that sold for the big money at Barrett-Jackson was
> HBJ8L/34507,
> > > > which was manufactured 31 Dec - 3 Jan 66.  The first Metallic Golden
> > Beige
> > > > car from the factory was HBJ8/40190 (right-hand drive), built 12 -
16
> > > > January 67.  All other MGB cars were presumably built at a date
later
> > than
> > > > January 1967.
> > > >
> > > > During a similar discussion we had on the list last year after the
> $97K
> > > > MGB
> > > > BJ8 sold (HBJ8L/40165), I was told that the Concours rules do not
> deduct
> > > > points for any Phase 2 car simply because it's painted Metallic
Golden
> > > > Beige.   Other later features on a car too early to have received
them
> > (by
> > > > the parts manual) would result in a points deduction.  It's just my
> > > > personal
> > > > opinion, but this seems a contradiction to me.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Byers
> > > > HBJ8L/36666
> > > > BJ8 Registry
> > > > Havelock, NC  USA




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