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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Geez Palm Pilot Options.]
From: "Byron Short" <bshort@AFSinc.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:53:26 -0700
Oops.  Forgot to cut off the trailer at the bottom of the
message.  The list automatically rejects anything with the
trailer still on it.  There's a lot of good info in here so
I wanted to be sure it made it back to the GEEZ list.

--Byron

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Geez Palm Pilot Options.
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:43:42 -0700
From: Byron Short <bshort@AFSinc.com>
Reply-To: bshort@AFSinc.com
Organization: AFS Software, Inc.
To: Charles Brown <brow@bright.net>
CC: geez@autox.team.net
References: <200106042226.f54MQVVZ025331@postal.netaxs.com> 
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<007601c0ef19$a98720c0$0400005a@underdogracing>
<3B1FC896.D3CBD2BB@AFSinc.com>
<001801c0efd7$f059d4c0$0400005a@underdogracing>

Hi Charles,

Several things, so I'm interspersing them into your text, so
that the answers follow the questions...

Charles Brown wrote:
> 
>     Thanks for the inf.!, my palm is a M105, which should be a M100 with
> 8MEG.. I just last night downloaded and tested the newest software. I am no
> longer getting a sample rate warning,

The new software sets the "wait state" on the fly, then
keeps adjusting it to keep your Palm right at 10 samples per
second.  The ideal wait state varies a lot between the
different models of Palms, so this strategy works best.

> but on extremely long runs (5min+), on
> which the palm does not fault, I get 505 not valid integer or something,
> after a lengthily download to the laptop (from the palm), and it fails. But
> on the second attempt(like the old software) works,

We've seen this one as more laptop dependent.  You can try
going into My Computer | Control Panel | System | Device
Manager and double clicking on ports.  When your Com port
comes up double click it to open up the "Communications Port
(Com X) Properties" dialog.  Go to Port Settings, then click
on the Advanced button.  You can set the Receive and
Transmit buffers lower and this will generally improve your
communication between the Palm and the laptop.  This has
worked for several customers.  Others have no problem with
the factory settings.  If you get totally lost you can hit
the "Defaults" button to return to the factory settings.

> but is trunsicated to
> only a minute or so??? 

We now have a setting for "initial view" in the Options
dialog.  Press the options button, and move that out just a
bit to get a longer view.  Keep in mind that if you have a
long run that is to be split up into several shorter laps,
this is the initial step in doing that, to set the initial
view to be more than the first lap, then set the MultiLap
property, both within the Options dialog.

>An extremely short run OTOH, looks jagged, I am not
> sure about how brief it was, but I have seen this behavior before on the
> laptop, as the recorder.

If it's really jagged you may be seeing a run recorded at
20hz being displayed as 10hz, or vice-versa.  Again, go into
your Options dialog and verify that if you recorded it on
the Palm you are viewing it as 10hz data.

--Byron
  888-909-0818


> 
>     Just haven't figured out how to use this, and what the limitations are.
> 
> Thanks For the help
> 
> Sat is the Miata Challenge, Its next G-Cube test on my 200HP+ EMOD, running
> less than .1 off FTD overall, last 3 events, small driver improvements are
> yet needed.
> 
> Regards
> Charles Brown
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Byron Short" <bshort@AFSinc.com>
> To: "Charles Brown" <brow@bright.net>
> Cc: <geez@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Geez Palm Pilot Options.
> 
> > Hey Charles,
> >
> > I would put your Miata in around 3.0 for roll and 2.0 for
> > pitch.  These are really stiff settings, but with those
> > spring rates, should be pretty close.  A difference of a
> > whole degree (=-1.0) on roll makes a very small difference
> > (about 0.015g) in the readings, so don't worry if you are
> > exact or not.  And I'm confident that these numbers would be
> > within 1 degree of correct.
> >
> > The sample rate warning is common the older Palm software,
> > but shouldn't occur (on most Palms) on the newer software.
> > If you haven't done it yet, pick up the newest Palm software
> > on the website http://www.extremegeez.com , then follow the
> > links to the download page.  The software was new on
> > 5/16/01.  It includes a "smart" checking to see how long to
> > wait between samples to get your Palm to it's highest
> > possible level (up to 10Hz).  This software also includes
> > battery checking, so if your 9v battery is low, the Palm
> > will report "LOW BATT" instead of "STANDBY".  It will still
> > work, but you should replace your battery as soon as you can
> > after you see this, at least by the next event.
> >
> > We've found that some of the early Palm III's can't get up
> > to speed to keep up with the new Palm software and so always
> > report a sample rate warning, even when running with the
> > latest software.  The tradeoff here is that the additional
> > functionality (Low Batt, and smart sample rate checking) can
> > somewhat overwhelm these older machines, and the best they
> > can do is still just a little below the warning threshhold.
> > In these cases, the software still automatically
> > interpolates the missing samples, to keep you on track.  So
> > it's annoying, but not dangerous.  Oddly, most of the Palm
> > III's that we've tried don't have this problem, but we've
> > seen 2 that do, and do it consistently.  So it might just be
> > a short period of production of the III's that did it.  As
> > we said, it's not really harmful, though, so the software
> > makes you aware of it at download time, then adjusts
> > accordingly to make it seemless to the end-user.
> >
> > We continue to tweak the Palm software.  Stay tuned.
> >
> > A rubber-banded desktop cradle?  Hey, why not just use the
> > desktop cradle sitting on your center console, and slow down
> > so as not to spill the whole thing going around turns?  ;-)
> > Seriously, though, on your older Palm III, the cable is
> > $15-20, depending on where you find it.  Best to buy locally
> > on that small of a part, to avoid shipping.  They are
> > available pretty much everywhere.  But if you can't find it
> > locally, try www.outpost.com.  They always have them in
> > stock, but you do wind up paying for shipping too.
> >
> > --Byron
> >   888-909-0818
> >
> > Charles Brown wrote:
> > >
> > >     What do you think it would be for a Miata, with ground control,
> (Stiff)
> > > 450F and 300R? Last autox I had a lot of adjusting to do. I also got
> several
> > > messages about sample rate? being below, so many per second, message
> when I
> > > downloaded them to the laptop (from the m105).
> > >
> > > Any Idea what that might be about?
> > >
> > > I was using a rubber banded  desktop sync cradle deal. I hopefully will
> have
> > > the cable before Saturday, and the next runs ;>)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > CB
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Byron Short" <bshort@AFSinc.com>
> > > To: "Troy Sorzano" <troyweb@infopackaging.com>
> > > Cc: "Byron Short" <geez@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Geez Palm Pilot Options.
> > >
> > > > Hey Troy,
> > > >
> > > > I don't remember 'zactly, but go around 4.5 for roll and 3.6
> > > > for pitch.  That should get you pretty close if you are
> > > > completely stock.  As shocks, swaybars, and tires are added,
> > > > you bring it down a bit.  A fully prepped to the limit of
> > > > stock rules TT would probably be better around 3.0 for roll
> > > > and 2.5 for pitch.
> > > >
> > > > --Byron
> > > >
> > > > Troy Sorzano wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a new Geez user.  Went to the excellent Evolution School Geez
> Class
> > > last month in philly.  I forgot to write down my palm pilot options for
> my
> > > car after Byron set them up.  And now I have reset them to default by
> > > reloading my palm.  Does anyone have some suggested settings for my car?
> I
> > > have a stock 2000 Audi TT Quattro 180hp.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Troy Sorzano

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