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Re: [Fot] TR6 Race Clutch Release Bearing - Hydraulic or Standard wSlave

To: Friends of Triumph Group Email <fot@autox.team.net>, Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Race Clutch Release Bearing - Hydraulic or Standard wSlave Cylinder?
From: Bert Brown via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 04:58:37 +0000 (UTC)
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 I was just at the Monterey Historics this weekend hanging out with 2 racer=
 friends and one of their friends pops into our pit space with the news tha=
t his internal hydraulic release bearing leaked in the Friday session and t=
he clutch was inoperable.=C2=A0 He had a Cobra and pulling a trans in one o=
f those cars is an absolute bitch!=C2=A0 He wanted to know what our experie=
nce was with these bearings and if we had a replacement.=C2=A0 Everyone sai=
d they have had many problems with hydraulic leaks with these internal rele=
ase bearings and "no", they didn't have a spare.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Everyone's vote at our pit was to use the external linkage and slave cylind=
er.=C2=A0 When I used to go to the track with my car I always carried spare=
 hydraulics and the external cylinder on my Spit was a snap to change.
By the way the Cobra guy couldn't find a replacement at the track and loade=
d his car on his trailer and missed his race.=C2=A0 All because of a damn i=
nternal hydraulic release bearing that he never thought he would have to re=
place!=C2=A0 Racing is fun!
Bert Brownex GP Spitfire
    On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 07:59:48 PM PDT, Charly via Fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Mark, I have always run the 'stock' style T.O. bearing.=C2=A0 I've run sev=
eral different clutches, from Laycock to Tilton, and have always had good l=
uck with it.
I've known several TR racers who have used the 'hydraulic' type=C2=A0 mecha=
nism and have always had problems at the track and have been difficult if n=
ot impossible to fix.
My vote is the stock linkage and a Tilton clutch,=20
BTW, car is still for sale.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

On Sun 18/08/24=C2=A0 7:05 PM , Mark Cook via Fot fot@autox.team.net sent:
> So, I one of my TR6s has a close ratio transmission with Mcleod hydraulic
> release bearing, which is leaking.=C2=A0 While there, trying to decide on
> whether to go back to a stock bearing, yoke etc, with an external slave
> cylinder.=C2=A0 For reference, as part of the engine rebuild, going with =
the
> Racetorations Arrow billet crank, 7 1/4" lightweight flywheel, cover
> and four paddle clutch disc.=20
> Not keen on having to remove the transmission for seal leaks related to t=
he
> hydraulic release bearing.=C2=A0 At the same time not familiar enough to =
know if
> a hydraulic release bearing's failure rate is any worse than a standard
> release bearing.=C2=A0 Everything I have read makes the hydraulic bearing=
 seem
> more sensitive to initial set up as well.
> Thoughts?
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> Thanks,
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> Mark Cook
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I was just at the Monterey H=
istorics this weekend hanging out with 2 racer friends and one of their fri=
ends pops into our pit space with the news that his internal hydraulic rele=
ase bearing leaked in the Friday session and the clutch was inoperable.&nbs=
p; He had a Cobra and pulling a trans in one of those cars is an absolute b=
itch!&nbsp; He wanted to know what our experience was with these bearings a=
nd if we had a replacement.&nbsp; Everyone said they have had many problems=
 with hydraulic leaks with these internal release bearings and "no", they d=
idn't have a spare.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Everyone's vote at our pi=
t was to use the external linkage and slave cylinder.&nbsp; When I used to =
go to the track with my car I always carried spare hydraulics and the exter=
nal cylinder on my Spit was a snap to change.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">By the way =
the Cobra guy couldn't find a replacement at the track and loaded his car o=
n his trailer and missed his race.&nbsp; All because of a damn internal hyd=
raulic release bearing that he never thought he would have to replace!&nbsp=
; Racing is fun!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bert Brown</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">ex GP Spitfire</div><div><br></div>
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                        On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 07:59:48 PM PDT, Char=
ly via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mark, I have always run the 'stock' s=
tyle T.O. bearing.&nbsp; I've run several different clutches, from Laycock =
to Tilton, and have always had good luck with it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I've known several TR racers who have used the 'hydraulic' type&nbsp; mech=
anism and have always had problems at the track and have been difficult if =
not impossible to fix.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My vote is the stock linka=
ge and a Tilton clutch, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">BTW, car is still for sa=
le.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Charly Mitchel<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TR6 =
#44<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun 18/08/24&nb=
sp; 7:05 PM , Mark Cook via Fot <a ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; hr=
ef=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a> sent:<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So, I one of my TR6s has a close ratio transmission with =
Mcleod hydraulic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; release bearing, which is l=
eaking.&nbsp; While there, trying to decide on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; whether to go back to a stock bearing, yoke etc, with an external slave<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; cylinder.&nbsp; For reference, as part of th=
e engine rebuild, going with the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Racetoratio=
ns Arrow billet crank, 7 1/4" lightweight flywheel, cover<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; and four paddle clutch disc. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
Not keen on having to remove the transmission for seal leaks related to the=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; hydraulic release bearing.&nbsp; At the sam=
e time not familiar enough to know if<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; a hydr=
aulic release bearing's failure rate is any worse than a standard<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; release bearing.&nbsp; Everything I have read makes t=
he hydraulic bearing seem<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; more sensitive to =
initial set up as well.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thoughts?<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks,<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Mark Cook<br></div><div di=
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