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Actually I think what makes those pads work so well was the installation...=
.
P.J.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4:15=E2=80=AFPM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net>
wrote:
> Well, Ted would know!
> I can=E2=80=99t speak about the Velvetouch reference, but that is interes=
ting.
> This set was manufactured by Raybestos, In the 1980=E2=80=99s.
> They came with my car as part of the spares package.
> I saved them for many years always wondering if they would hold up.
> Prior to the 2023 Kastner Cup at RA, We put them on the car mostly becaus=
e
> it was the only set we could find while rummaging through parts boxes in
> somewhat of a panic as a pre-race prep found us in dire need of a set of
> race shoes.
> They felt great from the start and have held up better than the carbotech
> ones we typically use.
> The ware has been very even and the friction material and drums look spot
> on-
> I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s the quality of the friction material=
or the 4 segment
> design (but they sure work good)! We are keeping them in use after over 2=
0
> hard race sessions.
> I might explore getting some like these made in a small batch since the
> stats all seem to point to a very good design.
> Anyone have a friend or contact at Raybestos or hard thoughts on the
> matter?
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 7, 2024, at 8:23 AM, Ted Schumacher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> These are segmented brake shoes. This is done when friction material wil=
l
> not bend to conform to shoe diameter. It was a common practice years ago
> when Velvetouch material was available. Velvetouch would not "bend" so
> material was cut into smaller segments the could be attached to brake sho=
e.
> Ted
>
>
> On 8/7/2024 7:42 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:
>
> 10% less contact area?
>
> Is this the drum brake version of a slotted rotor?
>
> Who makes them?
>
> thanks
> mike h
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 12:54=E2=80=AFAM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <
> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> This is a cool tidbit
>> The best rear brake shoes I have ever used are shown below.
>> These are currently being used by me and have been working great.
>> Notice anything unusual?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason Ostrowski
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Actually I think what makes those pads work so well was th=
e installation....<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0P.J.</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4=
:15=E2=80=AFPM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Well, Ted would know!<div>I can=
=E2=80=99t speak about the Velvetouch reference, but that is interesting.</=
div><div>This set was manufactured by Raybestos, In the 1980=E2=80=99s.</di=
v><div>They came with my car as part of the spares package.</div><div>I sav=
ed them for many years always wondering if they would hold up.=C2=A0</div><=
div>Prior to the 2023 Kastner Cup at RA, We put them on the car mostly beca=
use it was the only set we could find while rummaging through parts boxes i=
n somewhat of a panic as a pre-race prep found us in dire need of a set of =
race shoes.</div><div>They felt great from the start and have held up bette=
r than the carbotech ones we typically use.</div><div>The ware has been ver=
y even and the friction material and drums look spot on-=C2=A0</div><div>I=
=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s the quality of the friction material or=
the 4 segment design (but they sure work good)! We are keeping them in use=
after over 20 hard race sessions.</div><div>I might explore getting some l=
ike these made in a small batch since the stats all seem to point to a very=
good design.</div><div>Anyone have a friend or contact at Raybestos or har=
d thoughts on the matter?</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Ostrowski</div><di=
v>Friendly Ghost Racing=C2=A0</div><div>1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<br><br><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Aug 7, 2024, at 8:23 AM, Ted Schumacher via Fot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>=
wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">=EF=BB=BF
=20
=20
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<div>These are segmented brake shoes.=C2=A0 This
is done when friction material will not bend to conform to shoe
diameter.=C2=A0 It was a common practice years ago when Velvetouch
material was available.=C2=A0 Velvetouch would not "bend" s=
o material
was cut into smaller segments the could be attached to brake shoe.
Ted<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/7/2024 7:42 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">10% less contact area?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is this the drum brake version of a slotted rotor?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Who makes them?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>mike h</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
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t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This
is a cool tidbit <br>
The best rear brake shoes I have ever used are shown below.<br>
These are currently being used by me and have been working
great.<br>
Notice anything unusual?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jason Ostrowski <br>
Friendly Ghost Racing<br>
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars<br>
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