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To: "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Southwick front hub failure
From: Bert Brown via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 20:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
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 HenryExcellent write up and documentation!=C2=A0 I'm sure this is a help t=
o everyone!
When you search general metallurgical references you will find 7075 has bet=
ter fatigue strength than 6061.
And as with a lot of race car parts, nondestructive testing of critical par=
ts is just part of the game as suggested by Chuck Gee.I have a number of re=
d tagged parts on the "trophy" case that didn't pass inspection.
Bert Brownex Cal Club GP #90

    On Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 11:02:18 AM PDT, yellow04 via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 I am throwing this out there as a public service announcement, I broke a=
=20
part that I thought we had bulletproof solution to. At PittRace last=20
weekend I broke one of Southwick's aluminum front hubs. The area of the=20
hub that the inner race presses into sheared off, thankfully the wheel=20
was retained by the outer bearing and stayed on the car. I don't know=20
for how many laps that would have been the case!

Has anybody else heard of one of these hubs failing?

Discussions with Richard Good, who took over manufacturing these hubs=20
revealed his hubs are turned from a stronger material, the GoodParts=20
hubs are made from 7075 T6 aluminum, while Southwick made theirs from=20
6061 T6. Yes, it is a little heavier, but the GoodParts hub is still=20
about a pound lighter than stock. If you are unsure where your hubs were=20
made, I provided details in the writeup.

I have also been in contact with Chuck Gee, our resident metallurgist.=20
He is suggesting anybody running these Southwick hubs should start a=20
program of dye penetration testing.

Pictures and writeup here.

https://tr250racer.com/southwick-front-hub-failure/

Hope this helps everybody keep the shiny side up!

Henry Frye
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Henry</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Excellent write up and documentation!&nbsp; I'm sure =
this is a help to everyone!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When you search general metal=
lurgical references you will find 7075 has better fatigue strength than 606=
1.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">And as with a lot of race car parts, nondestructive te=
sting of critical parts is just part of the game as suggested by Chuck Gee.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I have a number of red tagged =
parts on the "trophy" case that didn't pass inspection.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">B=
ert Brown</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">ex Cal Club GP #90</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                        On Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 11:02:18 AM PDT, yello=
w04 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am throwing this out there as a pub=
lic service announcement, I broke a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">part that I =
thought we had bulletproof solution to. At PittRace last <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">weekend I broke one of Southwick's aluminum front hubs. The area o=
f the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">hub that the inner race presses into shear=
ed off, thankfully the wheel <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">was retained by the=
 outer bearing and stayed on the car. I don't know <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">for how many laps that would have been the case!<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Has anybody else heard of one of these hubs f=
ailing?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Discussions wi=
th Richard Good, who took over manufacturing these hubs <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">revealed his hubs are turned from a stronger material, the GoodPar=
ts <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">hubs are made from 7075 T6 aluminum, while So=
uthwick made theirs from <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">6061 T6. Yes, it is a l=
ittle heavier, but the GoodParts hub is still <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ab=
out a pound lighter than stock. If you are unsure where your hubs were <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">made, I provided details in the writeup.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have also been in contact with =
Chuck Gee, our resident metallurgist. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">He is sugg=
esting anybody running these Southwick hubs should start a <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">program of dye penetration testing.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pictures and writeup here.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://tr250racer.com/southwick-f=
ront-hub-failure/" target=3D"_blank">https://tr250racer.com/southwick-front=
-hub-failure/</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hope=
 this helps everybody keep the shiny side up!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Henry Frye<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">______________=
_________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a ymailto=3D"m=
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