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e back to bite you. =C2=A0Fighting a fire with AFFF is costing our Town hun=
dreds of thousands of dollars in tracking contamination plumes and treating=
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Mordy
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Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
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On Tuesday, February 20, 2024, 1:49 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team=
=2Enet> wrote:
So with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule?=C2=A0 Had we=
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project.=C2=A0 S=
ome of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertificatio=
n could very well be a major problem in these times.=C2=A0 So what is the a=
lternative, buy a new system?=C2=A0 Some of us have already committed to ra=
ce with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until S=
onoma.=C2=A0 Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not t=
o mention a potential large expense.
=C2=A0
We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under t=
he assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be a=
llowed to run as is.=C2=A0 Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last m=
inute does not sit well.=C2=A0 No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unre=
asonable.
=C2=A0
Ken
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows
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From: vfracing--- via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
=C2=A0
Advanced warning:
The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. =C2=A0Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. =C2=A0Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. =C2=A0Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)
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For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at=C2=A0https:=
//svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf.
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Regards,
=C2=A0
Phil Gott
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<div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr">Some of the two-pull systems use AFF=
F. This is a good fire fighting agent, but by no means the only one=
=2E AFFF contains PFAS, which is a man-made family of chemicals comin=
g under increasing scrutiny for causing health issues. If you use thi=
s and dispose of it improperly it could come back to bite you. Fighti=
ng a fire with AFFF is costing our Town hundreds of thousands of dollars in=
tracking contamination plumes and treating the wells in affected homes.</d=
iv>
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53465361" href=3D"https://www.consumernotice.org/environmental/afff/"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF) | Toxicity=
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#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Tuesday, February 20, 2024, 1:49=
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">So with a very short time get this done=
, this is the New rule? Had we known this, oh say last fall, it could=
have been a winter project. Some of this is not hard but sending you=
r system off to get a recertification could very well be a major problem in=
these times. So what is the alternative, buy a new system? Som=
e of us have already committed to race with our home clubs in mid March, th=
en it is a short turn around until Sonoma. Pretty well leaves us in a=
major bind as far I can tell, not to mention a potential large expense.</p=
>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">We were encouraged to sign up for the K=
Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the assumption that if our cars were leg=
al in our home clubs they would be allowed to run as is. Dropping thi=
s mandatory rule on us at the last minute does not sit well. No one w=
ants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t think the rule is that unreasonable, but=
the timing to get this done is unreasonable.</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">Ken</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microso=
ft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows</p>
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rom: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
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<b>Subject: </b>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup</p=
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mily:sans-serif;">Advanced warning:</span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;">The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than =
SCCA and some of the other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. Notably, p=
lumbed in systems are required, and they must have two activation points, o=
ne accessible to the driver and the other accessible to a course worker wit=
hout having to lean into the car. Furthermore, they must be re-certif=
ied every two years. Note that these are requirements, not recommenda=
tions, and new this year (2024)</span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;">For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requireme=
nts at <a href=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-Gen=
eral-Rules-1_24.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Ru=
les-1_24.pdf</a>.</span></p>
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mily:sans-serif;"> </span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv8158045542MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;">Regards,</span></p>
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