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Merci Jack !=20
I was about to answer the same : Dupont (now Cromax) Imron 700 is a 2k =
polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for industrial use. I =
use it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, etc.
But you need to spray it and know what you are doing, it is indeed very =
toxic, and cannot be brushed.=20
Use the TDS and prime correctly (epoxy is a good recommendation, such as =
Cromax 840/845, but not too thick, again check the TDS and use correctly =
with the correct equipment).
Otherwise get it simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to easily see =
cracks, and leaks from components)
A presto !
Alex Camoletti
=20
De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] De la part de Jack Wheeler =
via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 28 septembre 2023 14:48
=C3=80 : fot@autox.team.net; Tony Drews
Objet : Re: [Fot] Frame paint
=20
I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the =
frame on my race car with Dupont Imron. It was the most durable paint =
available at the time, and my experience reflected that. The stuff is =
very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
=20
Jack
=20
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
=20
=20
Grey will show cracks better than black. POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
Cheers, Tony
On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
I'd suggest POR 15. Depending on the color, the number changes. I =
think 15 is black. Gray is something else, maybe 10. Spray or brush =
on. I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are perfectly =
matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere. POR =
products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum. If the frame is =
bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you =
can skip the primer. =20
Dave H. =20
=20
On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot =
=20
=20
Hi All.=20
It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just =
wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car =
frame ? It's already sand blasted if that matters..=20
Thanks. P.J.=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Merci Jack ! =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>I was about to =
answer the same : Dupont (now Cromax) Imron 700 is a 2k =
polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for industrial use. I =
use it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, =
etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>But you need to =
spray it and know what you are doing, it is indeed very toxic, and =
cannot be brushed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Use the TDS and =
prime correctly (epoxy is a good recommendation, such as Cromax 840/845, =
but not too thick, again check the TDS and use correctly with the =
correct equipment).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Otherwise get it =
simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to easily see cracks, and =
leaks from components)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>A =
presto !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Alex =
Camoletti<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</s=
pan></b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>De la part de</b> Jack Wheeler =
via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9 :</b> jeudi 28 septembre 2023 =
14:48<br><b>=C3=80 :</b> fot@autox.team.net; Tony =
Drews<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Fot] Frame =
paint<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I don't =
know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the frame on =
my race car with Dupont Imron. It was the most durable paint =
available at the time, and my experience reflected that. The stuff =
is very toxic, so you must use a very good =
respirator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Jack<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydpc738254eyahoo_quoted_6378525148"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via =
Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydpc738254eyiv2026604046><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Grey will show cracks better than black. POR is the first =
thing that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used =
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Cheers, Tony<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd35055><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div =
id=3Dydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd17211><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>I'd suggest =
POR 15. Depending on the color, the number changes. I think =
15 is black. Gray is something else, maybe 10. Spray or =
brush on. I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are =
perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about =
anywhere. POR products might be a little more durable than =
Rustoleum. If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good =
start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the =
primer. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Dave =
H. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>On =
09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank"><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Hi All. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> It's =
been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering what =
the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's =
already sand blasted if that matters.. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> =
Thanks. P.J. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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