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I prefer club events (lower key, lower cost, more track time), but am OK
with festival type ones if we get enough track time and the fees aren't
through the roof. It's helpful (especially for festival type events
with lower track time) if there is an extra practice day ahead of time
if I need to learn the track (like we did at Mid-Ohio and PVGP). I'm
not a huge fan of SVRA, but they have event dates out west that are
favorable next year.
East coast-ish tracks I really like:
Road Atlanta
Mosport
VIR (but I do this one every year)
Lime Rock is one I've never been to and is very historic so that's in
the running too.
Cheers, Tony Drews
On 7/26/2023 12:20 PM, yellow04 via Fot wrote:
> I meant to change the subject line of this post, sorry for the repeat.
> We are not really looking for suggestions on specific events, we are
> trying to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph racers would
> prefer to run future Kastner Cup events, big festival events or more
> intimate club events. Brian Dolan's reply was spot on, thanks Brian!
> Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific
> (bucketlist?) track, by all means toss that out here too! For example,
> I would love to get back to Road Atlanta.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06â?¯PM yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we
> racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options
> are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
>
> Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many
> aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of
> event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check
> out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our
> cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the
> fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are
> as follows:
>
> Festival Events
>
> Typically higher entrance fees.
> Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a
> wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility
> of incidents, shortening sessions.
> Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility
> with the packed schedule.
> Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from
> a wide variety of media.
>
> ~
>
> Club Events
>
> Typically lower entrance fees.
> More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run
> group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't
> usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted
> by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
> Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good
> exposure from the normal sources.
>
> ~
>
> I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the
> biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated
> track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is
> all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer
> friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the
> success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and
> very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.
>
> Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer
> future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
>
> While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run
> at? That would be helpful information as well!
>
> Cheers
>
> Henry Frye
>
>
> On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
> > I suppose it wouldn't have to be. However the Mitty is attended very
> > well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran
> > at Road Atlanta.
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot
> >>> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road
> Atlanta during the Mitty.
>
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<p>I prefer club events (lower key, lower cost, more track time),
but am OK with festival type ones if we get enough track time and
the fees aren't through the roof. It's helpful (especially for
festival type events with lower track time) if there is an extra
practice day ahead of time if I need to learn the track (like we
did at Mid-Ohio and PVGP). I'm not a huge fan of SVRA, but they
have event dates out west that are favorable next year.<br>
</p>
<p>East coast-ish tracks I really like:</p>
<p>Road Atlanta</p>
<p>Mosport</p>
<p>VIR (but I do this one every year)</p>
<p>Lime Rock is one I've never been to and is very historic so
that's in the running too.</p>
<p>Cheers, Tony Drews<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/26/2023 12:20 PM, yellow04 via Fot
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:134283d5052f6883581a2ea6834f1841@tr4racer.com">
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<div>I meant to change the subject line of this post, sorry for
the repeat.</div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>We are not really looking for suggestions on specific events,
we are trying to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph
racers would prefer to run future Kastner Cup events, big
festival events or more intimate club events. Brian Dolan's
reply was spot on, thanks Brian!</div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific
(bucketlist?) track, by all means toss that out here too! For
example, I would love to get back to Road Atlanta.</div>
<div>Â </div>
<div id="replybody1"><br>
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<div class="v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at
12:06â?¯PM yellow04 via Fot <<a
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of
event we <br>
racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main
options <br>
are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.<br>
<br>
Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there
are many <br>
aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the
type of <br>
event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old
friends, check <br>
out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on
how our <br>
cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that
makes up the <br>
fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of
events are <br>
as follows:<br>
<br>
Festival Events<br>
<br>
Typically higher entrance fees.<br>
Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the
schedule with a <br>
wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the
possibility <br>
of incidents, shortening sessions.<br>
Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little
flexibility <br>
with the packed schedule.<br>
Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in
general from <br>
a wide variety of media.<br>
<br>
~<br>
<br>
Club Events<br>
<br>
Typically lower entrance fees.<br>
More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like
our own run <br>
group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events
don't <br>
usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers
being piloted <br>
by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.<br>
Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but
good <br>
exposure from the normal sources.<br>
<br>
~<br>
<br>
I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time
is the <br>
biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the
anticipated <br>
track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000
people is <br>
all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my
racer <br>
friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't
ignore the <br>
success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in
general, and <br>
very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.<br>
<br>
Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would
prefer <br>
future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club
events?<br>
<br>
While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a
hankering to run <br>
at? That would be helpful information as well!<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Henry Frye<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:<br>
> I suppose it wouldn't have to be. However the Mitty is
attended very<br>
> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup
was last ran<br>
> at Road Atlanta.<br>
> <br>
> Ronnie<br>
> <br>
>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, <a
href="mailto:chasgee22@gmail.com"; rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chasgee22@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?<br>
>> <br>
>> Chuck<br>
>> <br>
>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via
Fot <br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP
back to Road Atlanta during the Mitty.<span
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