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I can't recall the size of ARP the bolts in the Carrillo rods I have, but t=
hey are the larger of the two different ARP sizes, at least 5/16" maybe 3/8=
", and are reusable if they haven't been over stretched. Of course, the ro=
ds must also be different than those with the 1/4" bolt design. I have lit=
erature from Carrillo, but I double and triple checked the facts of the fas=
teners before reusing them. I called Carrillo too. The rods were used pre=
viously to my acquiring them, with the included bolts. =20
I was sure glad I didn't have to spend $46 each, or whatever they were at t=
he time, but I'm sure it was something like that, and I made damn sure ever=
ything was in good order before moving forward. =20
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> On 01/25/2023 3:34 PM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I had the same experience with the dinky little =C2=BC=E2=80=9D ARP r=
od bolts in my Carrillo set. I had a hard time trusting them. I did measu=
re them for yield each time I used them, but I mostly went by feel while to=
rquing them up. There were just times when you could feel them stretch the=
normal amount and some times when you could feel them streeeeeetch a bit m=
ore. I replaced them at that point, regardless of what the measurements sa=
id. Never had one break in use though, while I did have a 5/16ths ARP rod =
bolt break in a lightened stock rod.
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> Scott (B.)
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> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via =
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:42 PM
> To: Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question
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> the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I think as the Spit an=
d the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bolts. I=E2=80=99ve nev=
er had a failure in action, but did overstretch one because I used ARP lube=
instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker. Those bolts cost about=
$42 each! I now use the correct lube, measure them before and after I ins=
tall and uninstall them, etc. No issues at 7000 rpm, just about every shif=
t.
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> On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> Walt,
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> I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger r=
od bolt than Carillo.
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> =20
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> Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod=
bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
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> Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.
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> Brad Eells
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > >=20
> > On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> > I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeedi=
ng connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am consider=
ing Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.=20
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> > Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the ex=
tra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the afforda=
bility?
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I can't recall =
the size of ARP the bolts in the Carrillo rods I have, but they are the lar=
ger of the two different ARP sizes, at least 5/16" maybe 3/8", and are reus=
able if they haven't been over stretched. Of course, the rods must al=
so be different than those with the 1/4" bolt design. I have literatu=
re from Carrillo, but I double and triple checked the facts of the fastener=
s before reusing them. I called Carrillo too. The rods were use=
d previously to my acquiring them, with the included bolts. </sp=
an>
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I was sure glad=
I didn't have to spend $46 each, or whatever they were at the time, but I'=
m sure it was something like that, and I made damn sure everything was in g=
ood order before moving forward. </span>
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H. &n=
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ote:
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had the same experience with the dinky little =
=C2=BC=E2=80=9D ARP rod bolts in my Carrillo set. I had a hard time t=
rusting them. I did measure them for yield each time I used them, but=
I mostly went by feel while torquing them up. There were just times =
when you could feel them stretch the normal amount and some times when you =
could feel them streeeeeetch a bit more. I replaced them at that poin=
t, regardless of what the measurements said. Never had one break in u=
se though, while I did have a 5/16ths ARP rod bolt break in a lightened sto=
ck rod.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Fot <fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Scott Janzen via Fot<br><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:42 PM<br><strong>To:</stron=
g> Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com><br><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Friends o=
f Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net><br><strong>Subject:</strong> =
Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I=
think as the Spit and the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bo=
lts. I=E2=80=99ve never had a failure in action, but did overstretch one be=
cause I used ARP lube instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker. &n=
bsp;Those bolts cost about $42 each! I now use the correct lube, meas=
ure them before and after I install and uninstall them, etc. No issue=
s at 7000 rpm, just about every shift.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via F=
ot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:</p>
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y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;"> </span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to t=
he use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</span></p>
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y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;"> </span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of hi=
s Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</span></p>
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=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Not sure how it =
will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.</span></p>
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ly: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Brad Eells</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">On Jan 25, 202=
3, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have built a few full race engines for =
my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my ne=
xt build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the =
MaxSpeeding rods.<span class=3D"apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo=
rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding c=
onsidering the affordability?</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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