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They did mention that there was room in both the pans for a long stroke rod
without sitting in the pool of oil in the bottom of the pan. You are right,
we don't have that issue at all. OTOH, I think we have a splash and
splatter fest going on inside the TR4 blocks that far surpass anything in a
more modern design.
Bob Kramer
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> Makes sense on the Chevy. I=E2=80=99d argue that the crank is so far abo=
ve the
> oil level in the TR4 pan, that it probably doesn=E2=80=99t make a differe=
nce in
> this application, but I have no science to back up my wild claims!!
>
> -Dave G
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS>
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 4:48 PM, Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I caught an episode of Engine Masters on the tube. They had a big block
> Chevy engine where they tested a Miloden and a Moroso oil pan. One of th=
e
> pans was a cheap aftermarket with baffles. and the other a high tech job
> with a 2 part tank, extra width, engineering screens and the like. Neithe=
r
> had a crank scraper. They were able to gain HP by dropping the oil level =
to
> 5.5 quarts (no accusump). They played with the oil level to try and corre=
ct
> a drop in oil pressure that occured near peak power. Oil pressure droppe=
d
> like a rock and they speculated it was foaming the oil. In the end the hi=
gh
> tech pan versus the cheaper aftermarket pan added 27 HP if I remember
> correctly.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Not a problem at all; before installing an accusump, I would run mine 1/2
> quart over to ensure constant pressure. Autocrossing, I would notice
> pressure drops (split second) in the corners on occasion if I did not do
> this. You are in good shape!!
>
> Dave Gott
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot <fot@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
> I overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip =
stick).
> Is this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at the trac=
k?
> Thanks in advance for the advice.
>
>
>
> Anyone else going to Blackhawk this weekend?
>
>
>
> Tim Murphy
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<div dir=3D"ltr">They did mention that there was room in both the pans for =
a long stroke rod without sitting in the pool of oil in the bottom of the p=
an. You are right, we don't have that issue at all.=C2=A0 OTOH, I think=
we have a splash and splatter fest going on inside the TR4 blocks that far=
surpass anything in a more=C2=A0modern=C2=A0design.=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 15, 2=
021 at 3:54 PM David Gott <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphsix@yahoo.com";>trium=
phsix@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div>
Hi Bob,<div>Makes sense on the Chevy.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d argue that the cran=
k is so far above the oil level in the TR4 pan, that it probably doesn=E2=
=80=99t make a difference in this application, but I have no science to bac=
k up my wild claims!!</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave G<br><br><br><a href=
=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS"; target=3D"_blank">Sent fro=
m Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113=
,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px">On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 4:48 P=
M, Bob Kramer <<a href=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
rkramer56@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=3D"gmail-m_641909=
2884898560334yiv4814382114"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I caught an episode of En=
gine Masters on the tube.=C2=A0 They had a big block Chevy engine where=C2=
=A0they tested a Miloden and a Moroso oil pan.=C2=A0 One of the pans was a =
cheap=C2=A0aftermarket with baffles. and the other a high tech job with a 2=
part tank, extra width, engineering screens and the like. Neither had a cr=
ank=C2=A0scraper. They were able to gain HP by dropping the oil level to 5.=
5 quarts (no accusump). They played with the oil level to try and correct a=
drop in oil pressure that occured near peak power.=C2=A0 Oil pressure=C2=
=A0dropped like a rock and they speculated it was foaming the=C2=A0oil. In =
the end the high tech pan versus the cheaper aftermarket pan added 27 HP if=
I remember correctly.=C2=A0<div>=C2=A0=20
<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></=
div></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D=
"gmail-m_6419092884898560334yiv4814382114yqt77871"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue,=
Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM David Gott via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div>
Hi Tim,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Not a problem at all; before inst=
alling an accusump, I would run mine 1/2 quart over to ensure constant pres=
sure.=C2=A0 Autocrossing, I would notice pressure drops (split second)=C2=
=A0in the corners on occasion if I did not do this. =C2=A0 You are in good =
shape!!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Dave Gott<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:1=
5px;margin-top:0px">On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot =
<<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p><=
blockquote><div id=3D"gmail-m_6419092884898560334yiv4814382114gmail-m_24467=
07409608902902yiv7818481106"><div><div><p>I overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s su=
mp by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip stick). Is this critical or can I j=
ust run it and burn off the excess at the track? Thanks in advance for the =
advice.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Anyone else going to Blackhawk this weekend?</p=
><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Tim Murphy</p></div></div></div>_________________________=
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