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Re: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion
From: fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC)
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 I've always felt that was a lot of $$ & effort for what gains???There's no=
thing wrong with the standard lever-action design, and Apple Hydraulics wil=
l do a 10% stiffer if you want.It's hard to evaluate a shock by the push/pu=
ll method since they have a high & low speed function, and you can't feel t=
he high speed by working it by hand.A tube shock conversion does make sense=
 on an all-out spec racecar because they've developed them to a point where=
 the ability to adjust the rate & proportioning is almost infinite.Most vin=
tage racers/racecars don't fall into that category, and some groups still h=
ave vintage rules (I think )Besides the ability for limited adjustment on s=
ome, which is a big plus, I don't see the benefits for most vintage applica=
tions, nor street cars.Now having said/typed that, this is just my personal=
 opinion, many folks use them, and I'm sure will chime in with their though=
ts...=20

 Glen Efinger
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Connitt via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: FOT <FOT@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 12:06 pm
Subject: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion

Hi all,
I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished restoring b=
ack in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever type rear sh=
ocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links, I just rei=
nstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to have resistanc=
e when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as designed.=20
The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and I am considerin=
g switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the one that bolts dir=
ectly to the existing shock mounts.
Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to drive it aggressive=
ly.
I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with switching from re=
ar lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock mounting points) =
regarding handling improvement or not.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Connitt
=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">I've always felt that was a lot of $$ &amp; effort f=
or what gains???</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">There's nothing wrong with the standard lever-action =
design, and Apple Hydraulics will do a 10% stiffer if you want.</font></div=
>

<div><font size=3D"2">It's hard to evaluate a shock by the push/pull method=
 since they have a high &amp; low speed function, and you can't feel the hi=
gh speed by working it by hand.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">A tube shock conversion does make sense on an all-out=
 spec racecar because they've developed them to a point where the ability t=
o adjust the rate &amp; proportioning is almost infinite.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Most vintage racers/racecars don't fall into that cat=
egory, and some groups still have vintage rules (I think <img src=3D"https:=
//s.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/emoji/thinkingface=
.png" alt=3D"Thinking face" title=3D"Thinking face" style=3D"vertical-align=
:text-bottom" width=3D"25" height=3D"25">)</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2">Besides the ability for limited adju=
stment on some, which is a big plus, I don't see the benefits for most vint=
age applications, nor street cars.</font></font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Now having said/typed that, this is just my personal =
opinion, many folks use them, and I'm sure will chime in with their thought=
s... </font><br>
</div>

<div><br>
 </div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Dave Connitt via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: FOT &lt;FOT@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 12:06 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I fin=
ished restoring back in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock l=
ever type rear shocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new =
links, I just reinstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem =
to have resistance when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as d=
esigned. <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads an=
d I am considering switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the o=
ne that bolts directly to the existing shock mounts.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to dr=
ive it aggressively.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with =
switching from rear lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock =
mounting points) regarding handling improvement or not.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance,<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Connitt<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
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