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To: kkjjk@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts
From: robert bownes via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 23:23:49 -0500
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My dad=E2=80=99s Fisher Body Ltd factory (outside Belfast, N. Ireland) made s=
eat belts for Opel and Vauxhall (and Holden iirc).

I got to see firsthand the crash test dummy in the sled in the testing depar=
tment. They were mostly testing mechanisms, but they also tested the UV effe=
ct on batches of webbing. Let us just say, despite my cheap nature, I have n=
ever, ever, been tempted to push the dates on seatbelts.  At 5 years exposur=
e, the extra stretch was about 25%, which was enough to hit a steering wheel=
. After that, it fell off dramatically. At 10 years, they were pretty much u=
seless, the dummy was in the safety net. And this met regulations at the tim=
e!

By the way, the safety net had to be replaced regularly too. The dent in the=
 cinder block wall spoke volumes. :)



> On Mar 4, 2020, at 22:19, kkjjk--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Understood, Phil, thanks!- Jay
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
> To: kkjjk <kkjjk@aol.com>
> Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 10:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts
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> If your belts are certified by SFI they will be good for 2 years from the d=
ate of manufacture. If they carry an FIA certification, they will be accepte=
d for 5 years from the date of manufacture. SVRA enforces the dates to the m=
onth. SCCA will cut you some slack and let you go to the end of the calendar=
 year in which they expire.
> Phil Gott
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 9:31 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=

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>> Hello FOT-  Does anyone know how long seat belts are good for?  I have re=
ad here on FOT that SVRA will be checking belts at the Kastner Cup.  I just g=
ot new belts from Summit Racing, and the tag says they expire June 2022.  I t=
hought that belts were good for 5 years?   Could these belts be "old"(as in N=
OS) or are they only good for 2 years?  My present belts are over 5 years ol=
d.  Yikes!-- Jay
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">My dad=E2=80=99s Fisher Bo=
dy Ltd factory (outside Belfast, N. Ireland) made seat belts for Opel and Va=
uxhall (and Holden iirc).</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
 got to see firsthand the crash test dummy in the sled in the testing depart=
ment. They were mostly testing mechanisms, but they also tested the UV effec=
t on batches of webbing. Let us just say, despite my cheap nature, I have ne=
ver, ever, been tempted to push the dates on seatbelts. &nbsp;At 5 years exp=
osure, the extra stretch was about 25%, which was enough to hit a steering w=
heel. After that, it fell off dramatically. At 10 years, they were pretty mu=
ch useless, the dummy was in the safety net. And this met regulations at the=
 time!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the way, the safe=
ty net had to be replaced regularly too. The dent in the cinder block wall s=
poke volumes. :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 4, 2020, at 22:19, kkj=
jk--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Under<font size=3D"2">stood, Ph=
il, thanks!- Jay<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>
From: Phil Gott &lt;vfracing@aol.com&gt;<br>
To: kkjjk &lt;kkjjk@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 10:13 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Seat belts<br>
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<div>If your belts are certified by SFI they will be good for 2 years from t=
he date of manufacture. If they carry an FIA certification, they will be acc=
epted for 5 years from the date of manufacture. SVRA enforces the dates to t=
he month. SCCA will cut you some slack and let you go to the end of the cale=
ndar year in which they expire.
<div>Phil Gott<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 4, 2020=
, at 9:31 PM, kkjjk--- via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8225681691yqt2614023578" id=3D"yiv8225681691yqt46815">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;"><font size=3D"2">Hello FOT-&nbsp=
; Does anyone know how long seat belts are good for?&nbsp; I have read here o=
n FOT that SVRA will be checking belts at the Kastner Cup.&nbsp; I just got n=
ew belts from Summit Racing, and the tag says they expire June 2022.&nbsp; I=
 thought that belts were good for 5 years? &nbsp; Could these belts be "old"=
(as in NOS) or are they only good for 2 years?&nbsp; My present belts are ov=
er 5 years old.&nbsp; Yikes!-- Jay<br clear=3D"none">
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