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Here's an example:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-5376/overview/
It's basically got a diaphragm inside. Fuel goes to one side of the
diaphragm (spell that 3 times quickly) and ethylene glycol is on the
other side. The line from the engine bay to the fuel pressure gauge has
the ethylene glycol. If you have a rupture in the line in the passenger
compartment you just get a wet leg, not a ball of fire.
Regards, Tony
On 3/1/2019 6:05 AM, Brian Schirano wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> very interesting talk on the EGT probes. A side bar came up on fuel
> pressure gauges with isolators.. I have the gauge, but isolators? What
> is this?
> I have a single braided line up through the tub from elec pump and
> filter in the rear to regulator and gauge under the bonnet, line then
> splits to the carbs.
> Education please.
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
> 26A GT6+, 28 TR6
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell
> BSchirano@yahoo.com
>
>
> On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 10:52:17 PM EST, vfracing--- via Fot
> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I second the fuel pressure recommendation. Â For the $$$ I spent last
> year chasing what I thought was an ignition problem I could have
> installed two fuel pressure gauges with isolators!!! Â Not to mention
> the lost laps in the Kastler Cup....
>
> Phil Gott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation
>
> I've always heard that if you have a balance tube between front and
> rear carb that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can better isolate
> which carb you want to adjust.
> I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so no balance tube. I see up to
> 1450 F at the end of long straights. Much more than that and I start
> to transfer aluminum from the piston to the cylinder walls. I think
> there's some variation in temp readings between different probes and
> gauges, I don't know what the accuracy really is.
> It's a great troubleshooting tool when the car starts to run like
> crap. Another helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with isolator
> so you don't pipe gas into the passenger compartment). Pressure too
> high overruns the floats. To low and you've got something funny with
> the feed like a regulator / pump going bad or you forgot to put gas in
> the car.
> - Tony
> On 2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote:
> Interesting â?? why not 1 and 4 or 2 and 3?
> Scott (B.)
> *From:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:20 PM
> *To:* John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation
> If you are using SU's I would use Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If you
> are using dual Webers I prefer the same as above but any two will do
> really.
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 1:00:53 AM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot
> One and Four. Typically those would run the leaner than Two and Three.
> Terry Stetler
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
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> *From:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:30:15 PM
> *To:* Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> *Subject:* [Fot] EGT gauge installation
> I need some tips on installation of a dual probe EGT gauge on the TR4
> race engine with twin Strombergs-
> What two cylinder to use for probes.
> Optimum EG temperature for tuning purposes.
> Thanks
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<p>Here's an example:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-5376/overview/";>https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-5376/overview/</a></p>
<p>It's basically got a diaphragm inside. Fuel goes to one side of
the diaphragm (spell that 3 times quickly) and ethylene glycol is
on the other side. The line from the engine bay to the fuel
pressure gauge has the ethylene glycol. If you have a rupture in
the line in the passenger compartment you just get a wet leg, not
a ball of fire.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/1/2019 6:05 AM, Brian Schirano
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<div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times,
serif; font-size: 16px;">Hi Guys</div>
<div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times,
serif; font-size: 16px;"><br>
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<div style="">very interesting talk on the EGT probes. A side
bar came up on <font size="2" face="arial">fuel pressure
gauges with isolators.. I have the gauge, but isolators?
What is this? </font></div>
<div style=""><font size="2" face="arial">I have a single
braided line up through the tub from elec pump and filter
in the rear to regulator and gauge under the bonnet, line
then splits to the carbs. </font></div>
<div style=""><font size="2" face="arial">Education
please.</font></div>
<div style=""><font size="2" face="arial"><br>
</font></div>
<div style=""><font size="2" face="arial">Thanks</font></div>
<div style=""><font size="2" face="arial">Brian</font></div>
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serif; font-size: 16px;"><br>
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<div>26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>
Brian Schirano<br>
585-305-0349 Cell <br>
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<div> On Thursday, February 28, 2019, 10:52:17 PM EST,
vfracing--- via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><fot@autox.team.net></a> wrote: </div>
<div><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="arial" color="black">I second
the fuel pressure recommendation. Â For the $$$ I spent
last year chasing what I thought was an ignition
problem I could have installed two fuel pressure
gauges with isolators!!! Â Not to mention the lost laps
in the Kastler Cup....
</font>
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</div>
<div>Phil Gott<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
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arial;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
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From: Tony Drews via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><fot@autox.team.net></a><br
clear="none">
To: fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><fot@autox.team.net></a><br clear="none">
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT gauge installation<br
clear="none">
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<div>
<div>I've always heard that if you have a
balance tube between front and rear carb
that you want to run in 1 and 4 so you can
better isolate which carb you want to
adjust.</div>
<div>I have mine in 1 and 4 but run webers so
no balance tube. I see up to 1450 F at the
end of long straights. Much more than that
and I start to transfer aluminum from the
piston to the cylinder walls. I think
there's some variation in temp readings
between different probes and gauges, I don't
know what the accuracy really is.</div>
<div>It's a great troubleshooting tool when
the car starts to run like crap. Another
helpful tools is a fuel pressure gauge (with
isolator so you don't pipe gas into the
passenger compartment). Pressure too high
overruns the floats. To low and you've got
something funny with the feed like a
regulator / pump going bad or you forgot to
put gas in the car.<br clear="none">
</div>
<div>- Tony<br clear="none">
</div>
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<div
class="ydp45e372abyiv3291622480moz-cite-prefix">On
2/27/2019 6:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt;">Interesting
â?? why not 1 and 4 or 2 and 3?</span></div>
<div
class="ydp45e372abyiv3291622480MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Â </span></div>
<div
class="ydp45e372abyiv3291622480MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;">Scott
(B.)</span></div>
<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Â </span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Parent
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February
27, 2019 2:20 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> John Styduhar <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] EGT
gauge installation</span></div>
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<div
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you are using SU's I would use
Cylinders 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. If
you are using dual Webers I prefer
the same as above but any two will
do really.</span></div>
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Wednesday, February 27, 2019,
1:00:53 AM EST, Terry Stetler
via Fot <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
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<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt;">One
and Four. Typically those
would run the leaner than
Two and Three.</span></div>
<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt;">Â </span></div>
<div
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style="font-size:10.0pt;">Terry
Stetler</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;">Â </span></div>
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<div
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need some tips on
installation of a
dual probe EGT gauge
on the TR4 race
engine with twin
Strombergs-</span></div>
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<div
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two cylinder to use
for probes.</span></div>
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<div
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EG temperature for
tuning
purposes.</span></div>
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