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Subject: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 16:52:11 -0500
If you watch enough Goodwood Revival race videos, you realize they are running 
on the skinniest tires and probably hardest compound and they put on quite a 
show.  But the race 
organizer demands period correct!
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44

On Sun 11/03/18 12:57 PM , Tony Drews via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
> Some of the most fun I've had driving was on skinny Dunlops.? Major
> drift, big slip angles, what a hoot.? If we could get everyone to run
> that kind of thing it would be neat.? I don't think that's possible
> in the context of running within mixed marque groups though. 
> 
> I do think that tire technology is why we need Southwick rear axles
> to begin with.
> Tony
> On 3/11/2018 10:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
> Henry you not only get it, but also touch on one of the main issues.
> Yes tire technology has allowed these cars to go a lot faster than
> was ever intended.
> They get faster and more stuff breaks; fix one thing and then the
> next weak-link fails.
> At what point does it end?
> Rack & pinion steering, tubular adjustable front suspension, light
> brake calipers, non-triumph gearboxes, wide rims, big-bore engines,
> the latest greatest big-$$ rubber, etc, etc, etc; some folks are
> willing and can afford to take it to the limit, some aren't/cant
> afford it, especially with trying to stay within some set of rules.
> That's why tires are really the biggest equalizer, as difficult as it
> may be to control nowadays; we really need to level the field.
> The other point is that we have to remember that we're VINTAGE racing
> these cars, not doing ongoing development programs for GT cars...
> FWIW
> Safety FasTR!
> Glen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellow04 via Fot 
> To: fot 
> Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
> As the person who innocently started this thread on the subject of
> the 
> readily available reproduction steel 16P calipers, a part I can't 
> construe how anybody could call a cheater part, I'll add my two
> cents...
> Tire technology moved Vintage Racing to a place that we can't go back
> 
> from. Like it or not, in order to keep us safe at the speeds these
> new 
> tires allow us to go, you need to get with the program or take your 
> chances. Even the venerable Hoosier Vintage TD bias ply tire can be 
> really fast in the right hands and we have proof many cars lost
> wheels 
> running Vintage TD's. Safety enhancements were needed, and the gray
> area 
> between whats a safety enhancement and a speed enhancement will
> always 
> be the heart of the debate.
> As I am now taking care of Old Blue, Bill Dentinger's TR3, a car that
> 
> has been considered the most vintage correct TR3 running in the
> States, 
> this is an issue I have personally been grappling with. It became 
> crystal clear to me that to be comfortable running the car at any
> level, 
> there were some things they did "back in the day" that just don't cut
> it 
> any more. Updating some bits to make sure all the wheels stay on the
> car 
> is just common sense. Taking it beyond that, there lies the
> conundrum... 
> For what it's worth, under my watch Old Blue will run worm and peg 
> steering, 87mm bore, a Triumph gearbox, and as many of Bill's
> original 
> Triumph Competition Dept. bits as I can. Good fun.
> Henry
> On 2018-03-10 02:18, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
> > Not sure how a brake question turned into the annual "what is
> vintage"
> > debate - seems late in the season for it this time...
> > 
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