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Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

To: "'Dean Tetterton'" <tr3a58@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
From: "Steve Yott" <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:00:34 -0500
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Love that stuff but can't figure out what they can't make a dispenser that
works!  

Steve

 

From: Dean Tetterton [mailto:tr3a58@verizon.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:41 PM
To: Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Cc: 'Bob Kramer' <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>; 'John Styduhar'
<johnstydo@gmail.com>; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI' <biznzman@pacbell.net>; 'FOT List'
<fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

 

I do the same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same as the slot and hammer it
in. Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the Right Stuff everywhere,
especially will seal transmission cases.

 

Dean T.

 

 

On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Steve Yott wrote:





For anyone who cares, what I do is cut the felt up into 1" pieces, coat them
with Right Stuff and pack as many as I can into each side.  If done right
you can see squeeze out of gasket maker on the sides.. They have all held
very well and I have done a lot of them using this method.  You will need
additional felt!

 

Steve Yott

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:12 PM
To: 'John Styduhar'; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI'
Cc: 'FOT List'
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

 

OK, I'll bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I've had good luck with
that, although I fill the very top (actually bottom) of the cap recess with
RTV.

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 AM
To: STEPHEN BOROWSKI
Cc: FOT List
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

 

I also have the center plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to install an
NPT adapter for the oil line from my accumulator. 

Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone if necessary.

Machine the center main cap to install a reinforcing strap.

Bottom tap all head stud holes.

Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for flush-fit NPT
fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling plug.

Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal conversion. Do not use
Indian Head Shellac on the felt seals.

Grind unnecessary casting material from the inside and outside of the block,
particularly in the cooling areas. 

If needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner gaskets. 

 

 

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI <biznzman@pacbell.net

Hello All,

I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I rebuilt it
was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or six race
weekends on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty years! It is
amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings show minimal ware
and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and followers including
head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look questionable...

 

So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods & Mains. Any suggestions as
to what brand and where to buy them?

I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should do to
the block?

 

The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What clearances should I
run?

I do plan on balancing and polishing it.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

Steve and son Matthew

Florida TR4

 

 

 

 


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Love that =
stuff but can&#8217;t figure out what they can&#8217;t make a dispenser =
that works!&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Steve<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Dean Tetterton [mailto:tr3a58@verizon.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
June 28, 2016 7:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Steve Yott =
&lt;tr4@wi.rr.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Bob Kramer' =
&lt;rkramer3@austin.rr.com&gt;; 'John Styduhar' =
&lt;johnstydo@gmail.com&gt;; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI' =
&lt;biznzman@pacbell.net&gt;; 'FOT List' =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I do the =
same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same as the slot and hammer it in. =
Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the Right Stuff everywhere, =
especially will seal transmission cases.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dean T.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Steve Yott wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>For anyone who cares, what I do is cut the felt up into 1&#8221; =
pieces, coat them with Right Stuff and pack as many as I can into each =
side.&nbsp; If done right you can see squeeze out of gasket maker on the =
sides&#8230;. They have all held very well and I have done a lot of them =
using this method.&nbsp; You will need additional =
felt!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Steve Yott</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><=
/span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>]<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf =
Of<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Bob =
Kramer<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:12 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>'John =
Styduhar'; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI'<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>'FOT =
List'<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>OK, I&#8217;ll bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I&#8217;ve =
had good luck with that, although I fill the very top (actually bottom) =
of the cap recess with RTV.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><=
/span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>]<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf =
Of<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>John =
Styduhar<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 =
AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>STEPHEN =
BOROWSKI<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>FOT =
List<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I also have the center plug hole on the main oil =
galley tapped to install an NPT adapter for the oil line from my =
accumulator.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and =
line hone if necessary.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Machine the center main cap to install a reinforcing =
strap.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bottom =
tap all head stud holes.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley =
plugs for flush-fit NPT fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head =
cooling plug.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal =
conversion. Do not use Indian Head Shellac on the felt =
seals.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Grind =
unnecessary casting material from the inside and outside of the block, =
particularly in the cooling =
areas.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If =
needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner =
gaskets.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:biznzman@pacbell.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
Hello All,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I =
rebuilt it was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or =
six race weekends&nbsp;on the engine but its been sitting for almost =
twenty years!&nbsp;It is amazing everything looks very good. Rod and =
Main bearings show minimal ware and the same with the pistons and =
liners. G3 cam and followers including head and valves all look good. =
Cam bearings look =
questionable...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods &amp; Mains. Any =
suggestions as to what brand and where to buy =
them?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should do =
to the block?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What clearances =
should I run?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
I do plan on balancing and polishing =
it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
Thanks for any input.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
Steve and son Matthew</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
Florida TR4</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
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