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Actually it=E2=80=99s just a cheap particle board/formica top on top of =
the cheapest reasonably sturdy cabinets that Home Depot sells. But I =
have granite and marble in stacks and piles outside the shop. It was a =
former granite and marble cutting company. I want to turn it into super =
nice gravel, but my wife envisions some kind of marble project. What it =
really is, is a home for rats. The first time she sees one I=E2=80=99ll =
get my gravel. Until then, does anyone want to buy a marble birdhouse? =
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> HI.
> Never mind the degree wheel, check out that granite workbench top. =
Now that's a workshop!
> P.J.
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> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com =
> Yeah, I couldn=E2=80=99t figure out your spreadsheet. My degree wheel =
helps usually since it=E2=80=99s a 180 wheel:=20
> <IMG_0351.jpg>
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>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com =
>>=20
>> Bill, I believe you had a 298D cam that was in an engine from uncle =
jack, but you told me you were not going to run it. That was a few =
years ago. Someone on the list will probably want it if you don't. I'll =
send you the cam card. It should be run with 0 to 4 degrees advance and =
a valve lash of 0.015.
>>=20
>> Steve Long sent me the specs of all the Erson cams, so the numbers on =
my website should be accurate. Steve will grind whatever lobe =
separation you want, so you can't use lobe separation to identify his =
cams. The Erson 23 should have similar lift, but a lot more duration =
than my 298D cam.
>>=20
>> Cam timing is confusing because the scales on the degree wheels run =
one way then another. I often subtract when I should add, because of the =
scale direction. I'd prefer a scale that runs from 0 to 360. I have a =
couple of Excel spreadsheets you can download from my website that might =
help with some of this. The one for timing is confusing because of the =
conversions of all the degree wheel readings.
>>=20
>> Larry
>>=20
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>>=20
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>> On 6/14/2016 12:46 PM, Bill Babcock wrote:
>>> Searching around on the web, it kind of looks like a TilTech 298Dx, =
but I don=E2=80=99t recall buying a cam from Larry and Tony Garmey =
doesn=E2=80=99t think so either. I could just set it up as if it were, =
but it would be good to know.
>>>=20
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>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com =
>>>>=20
>>>> Oh, and the lift is .372
>>>>=20
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>>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com =
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I=E2=80=99m building a new motor for Peyote from the bits of =
it=E2=80=99s previous engine. I discovered the front main bearing cap =
was cracked in half when I decided to freshen the motor. I=E2=80=99ll =
work on replacing the cap later=E2=80=94maybe get a billet one made, but =
in the meantime I=E2=80=99ve run into a minor problem. I don=E2=80=99t =
know for sure what cam I have or how it should be set. Tony Garmey says =
it=E2=80=99s a BFE cam, but I can=E2=80=99t find any specs for those and =
can=E2=80=99t get ahold of Ken.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I ballparked where I think the cam might want to be and got this =
for measurements:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Reading the Intake and exhaust valve movement from the spring =
retainers I use 0.033=E2=80=9D as the open/close height which is =
.050/1.45 which as I recall is the ratio of the stock rockers=E2=80=9D
>>>>> Intake open .033 @ 36 BTC
>>>>> Intaake close .033=E2=80=9D @ 76 ABC
>>>>> Exhaust open .033=E2=80=9D @ 76 ABC
>>>>> Exhaust close .033=E2=80=9D @ 42 ATC
>>>>>=20
>>>>> By my calculations that gives:
>>>>> Intake duration 292.0 degrees
>>>>> Exhaust duration 298 degrees
>>>>> Intake lobe center 110.0 ATC
>>>>> Exhaust lobe center 107 BTC
>>>>> Overlap 78
>>>>> Lobe separation angle 108.5
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Pretty sure this isn=E2=80=99t exactly where it needs to be. I =
have a vernier sprocket so I can adjust the timing precisely. My =
questions are:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> What cam is this?
>>>>> Where should it be set?
>>>>> How much advance?
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Actually it=E2=80=99s just a cheap particle board/formica top =
on top of the cheapest reasonably sturdy cabinets that Home Depot sells. =
But I have granite and marble in stacks and piles outside the shop. It =
was a former granite and marble cutting company. I want to turn it into =
super nice gravel, but my wife envisions some kind of marble project. =
What it really is, is a home for rats. The first time she sees one =
I=E2=80=99ll get my gravel. Until then, does anyone want to buy a marble =
birdhouse? How about a few thousand marble cutting boards. <div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Jun 18, 2016, at 9:10 AM, McKearn McKearn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; class=3D"">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">HI.<div class=3D""> Never mind the degree =
wheel, check out that granite workbench top. Now that's a =
workshop!</div><div class=3D""> =
=
P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:20 PM, =
Bill Babcock <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:ponobill@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">ponobill@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D"">Yeah, I couldn=E2=80=99t =
figure out your spreadsheet. My degree wheel helps usually since it=E2=80=99=
s a 180 wheel: <div class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:48934942-0C6D-45ED-9659-3D7F6C2C55AA"><IMG_0351.jpg></span=
></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:39 PM, =
Larry Young <<a href=3D"mailto:cartravel@pobox.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">cartravel@pobox.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Bill, I believe you had a 298D cam that was =
in an engine from uncle jack, but you told me you were not going to run =
it. That was a few years ago. Someone on the list will probably =
want it if you don't. I'll send you the cam card. It should =
be run with 0 to 4 degrees advance and a valve lash of 0.015.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Steve Long sent me the specs of all the Erson =
cams, so the numbers on my website should be accurate. Steve will =
grind whatever lobe separation you want, so you can't use lobe =
separation to identify his cams. The Erson 23 should have similar lift, =
but a lot more duration than my 298D cam.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cam=
timing is confusing because the scales on the degree wheels run one way =
then another. I often subtract when I should add, because of the scale =
direction. I'd prefer a scale that runs from 0 to 360. I =
have a couple of Excel spreadsheets you can download from my website =
that might help with some of this. The one for timing is confusing =
because of the conversions of all the degree wheel readings.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Larry<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.tildentechnologies.com/"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">www.TildenTechnologies.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">On 6/14/2016 12:46 PM, Bill Babcock wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Searching around on the =
web, it kind of looks like a TilTech 298Dx, but I don=E2=80=99t recall =
buying a cam from Larry and Tony Garmey doesn=E2=80=99t think so either. =
I could just set it up as if it were, but it would be good to know.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Bill Babcock <<a =
href=3D"mailto:ponobill@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">ponobill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Oh, and the lift is .372<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jun 14, 2016, at =
10:11 AM, Bill Babcock <<a href=3D"mailto:ponobill@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">ponobill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m building a new motor for Peyote =
from the bits of it=E2=80=99s previous engine. I discovered the front =
main bearing cap was cracked in half when I decided to freshen the =
motor. I=E2=80=99ll work on replacing the cap later=E2=80=94maybe get a =
billet one made, but in the meantime I=E2=80=99ve run into a minor =
problem. I don=E2=80=99t know for sure what cam I have or how it should =
be set. Tony Garmey says it=E2=80=99s a BFE cam, but I can=E2=80=99t=
find any specs for those and can=E2=80=99t get ahold of Ken.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I ballparked where I think the cam might want =
to be and got this for measurements:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Reading =
the Intake and exhaust valve movement from the spring retainers I use =
0.033=E2=80=9D as the open/close height which is .050/1.45 which as I =
recall is the ratio of the stock rockers=E2=80=9D<br class=3D"">Intake =
open .033 @ 36 BTC<br class=3D"">Intaake close .033=E2=80=9D @ 76 ABC<br =
class=3D"">Exhaust open .033=E2=80=9D @ 76 ABC<br class=3D"">Exhaust =
close .033=E2=80=9D @ 42 ATC<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">By my =
calculations that gives:<br class=3D"">Intake duration 292.0 degrees<br =
class=3D"">Exhaust duration 298 degrees<br class=3D"">Intake lobe center =
110.0 ATC<br class=3D"">Exhaust lobe center 107 BTC<br class=3D"">Overlap =
78<br class=3D"">Lobe separation angle 108.5<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Pretty sure this isn=E2=80=99t exactly where it needs to be. =
I have a vernier sprocket so I can adjust the timing precisely. My =
questions are:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">What cam is this?<br =
class=3D"">Where should it be set?<br class=3D"">How much advance?<br =
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